Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

June 23rd, 2008 Urban Conservative

I am clearly not taxed enough. I realize that there are some people in our society that just can’t help themselves; and it’s my responsibility and duty to take care of these people. I don’t give to charity – so forced redistribution of wealth works much better for me.

I am tired of the hassle of finding the right doctor for my medical needs. PPO or HMO? It’s just too confusing and takes too much time to figure all this out. With national healthcare, all doctors would provide equal care – and what would I care anyway since it would all be free, paid for by my fellow Americans?

Global warming is real, and it’s a consensus in the scientific community that it’s caused by human behavior. If course, John Coleman doesn’t believe so given his recent and ludicrous comments:

There is no significant man made global warming. There has not been any in the past, there is none now and there is no reason to fear any in the future. The climate of Earth is changing. It has always changed. But mankind’s activities have not overwhelmed or significantly modified the natural forces.

Who in the hell is this guy anyway? Just because he founded the Weather Channel doesn’t give him merit or credibility to make these absurd accusations. If Al Gore (who was the 2000 Democratic Presidential Candidate) said so, I believe it and you should to.

I am sick of Christians trying to force their religion on me through the government. I am tired of seeing “In God We Trust” on all of currency and within our court system. It needs to be removed. The government should not endorse ANY religion and I don’t really care that our country was founded on Christian principles. We need to be accepting of ALL people from EVERY religion; and the way our government endorses Christianity offends most Americans, including me. I realize I am supposed to be tolerant of others but this has gone way too far.

I don’t want Roe Vs. Wade to be reversed and I don’t want the government to enforce laws that affect a woman’s right to choose, regardless of how far a long she is in her pregnancy. Who cares if she acted irresponsible with her sexual tendencies, it’s her body and she can do what she wants with it. And besides, fetuses are not “real people” yet and don’t feel pain so their decisions don’t count.

I am against capital punishment. I think all convicted felons; regardless of the crime they committed can be rehabilitated. With the right care and therapy, they can assimilate back into society successfully, even pedophiles.

I believe marriage should be open to anyone and everyone; no restrictions, no laws, no nothing. We need to be tolerant of all people, regardless of their religion, sex, previous and/or current gender, sexual orientation, weight, appearance, etc. In fact, let’s make NAMBLA a government institution so we can regulate their behavior.

I think we should open the southern borders with open arms. The good people of Mexico and South America just want a better life for themselves. Besides, they do the work that Americans don’t want to do. If we were more compassionate to these people and stopped calling them “illegal aliens”, then they wouldn’t commit violent crimes here in America.

Of course, back in 2004, Heather Mac Donald who writes in the City Journal stated that “Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens” but c’mon, really … who is she anyway and what college did she go to?

The Department of Homeland Security, estimates that between 300,000 to 450,000 illegal immigrants convicted of a crime are detained each year in our prison system; and that it would cost between $2.1 billion and $3.4 billion annually to deport every illegal immigrant convicted of a crime. Imagine the money we would save if just let them stay!

War is wrong and should be avoided at all costs. We should have never gone into Iraq, Vietnam, Korea; and WWII was a huge mistake. If we just treated other countries with mutual respect and consideration, we wouldn’t have to worry about terrorist attacks or nuclear war. Besides, there is no real proof that the holocaust actually occurred anyway, according to Ahmadinejad.

Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong-Il just want respect. Let’s give it to them and welcome their countries as world powers; and, heck if Chavez wants in, let’s bring him in the mix too. Besides, I am sure we can make significant progress if we just sit down with each country and have a genuine conversation. In fact, let’s bring them in all at once and have a World Power Summit at the UN.

Speaking of the UN, I trust the United Nations more than I do our own government, so let’s give them more power. I am almost positive that the U.S. is in their best interests anyway.

Let’s just leave Bin Laden alone and he will leave us alone; and the Democrats will do just that. Besides, terrorists hate Republican presidents.

We really need to stop supporting Israel. If we did, most if not all Middle Eastern countries would hold no ill regard against the US. I think they can fend for themselves anyway. Besides, they are the ones that are occupying the holy land of Palestine anyway so maybe they deserve what’s coming to them anyway.

We need to spend more money finding alternative fuel and energy resources. We can’t drill here in the US because we can’t disrupt the environment and wild life. That would be a crime; and we don’t want to take Middle Eastern resources either.

And lastly, I am voting Democrat across the board because:

We need a minority President. I don’t care what he stands for, his experience or what his policies are. Having a black president will help shape future race relations here in the U.S. and besides, Obama has such charisma and he is a great speaker too. His speeches inspire me and make me feel special. I have no doubt in my mind that he puts the Democratic Party way before our country, which is how it should be.

I know, some of the comments made above are pretty over the top. But so was this lame duck video created Charlie Steak and produced by SyntheticHuman Pictures. Consider this my rebuttal, without video of course.



Tags: redistribution of wealth, national healthcare, John Coleman, Al Gore, global warming, Roe vs Wade, abortion, capital punishment, Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il, war, Israel, Bin Laden, why I am voting for Obama, im voting republican, imvotingrepublican


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39 Comments

Comment by michelle ramos
June 23rd, 2008 8:07 pm MyAvatars 0.2

wow Urban ... you really out did yourself here. You are sure going to piss some people off with this one. Good luck.

Comment by Norski
June 23rd, 2008 8:20 pm MyAvatars 0.2

Oh-kay.

For once, I'm speechless. That takes quite a bit of doing.

Comment by yo martinez
June 23rd, 2008 8:46 pm MyAvatars 0.2

yo Toe .... where you at? I want to see your rebuttal to this.

Comment by JarrodM
June 24th, 2008 1:42 am MyAvatars 0.2

For those of you who slept through World History 101 here is a
condensed version.

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and
would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were:
1. The invention of beer, and
2. The invention of the wheel.
The wheel was invented to get man to the beer, and the beer to
the man.
These facts formed the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct
subgroups:
1. Liberals
2. Conservatives.
Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the
beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were
invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to
be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were
formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at
night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as
the Conservative movement.

Other men wh o were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned
to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the
sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the

beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The
rest became known as girlie-men.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication
of cats, the invention of group therapy and group hugs, the evolution of the
Hollywood actor, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide
all the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the
largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant.

Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most
prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their
beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: most liberal women
have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal
injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are
liberals.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still
provide for their women.

Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, firemen,
lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate
executives, athletes, golfers, and generally anyone who works productively.
Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a
living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the
producers and decide what to do with the production.

Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans.
That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were
coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a
business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history.

It should be noted that a liberal may have a momentary urge to
angrily respond to the above before forwarding it.

A conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the
absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other
true believers. .

Comment by Adalaise
June 24th, 2008 3:26 am MyAvatars 0.2

What a great post! That took a great deal of thought! I'll be a new subscriber!

Hey, what's with the 2 + 2 question on this comment form? Simple intelligence test?

Comment by davidwwalters
June 24th, 2008 5:24 am MyAvatars 0.2

UC.........this is a mirror image of Stephen Colbert.

Comment by Suburban Moderate
June 24th, 2008 7:15 am MyAvatars 0.2

So I guess trotting out wildly exaggerated stereotypes is how you get a laugh around here. I think you forgot to mention that everyone who drives a hybrid must be a left wing hippie liberal. Only a liberal would want to save a few bucks on gas.

And legalizing gay marriage will lead directly to government regulated NAMBLA. Perhaps we can roll marriage all the way back to same races only...and if you happen to be of mixed heritage now you are out of luck.

It's also fun that you are comparing the Iraq war (started under false pretenses) to wars against Communist superpowers or even when another country's airforce decides to bomb our military.

And I suppose you also want to piss on the first amendment. I mean what were the founding fathers thinking with the whole separation of church and state thing. They must have said that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" because they WANTED us all to be Christian. Everyone else needs to beat it. Who cares that early settlers came here to escape religious oppression.

I also like how you are trying to preempt criticism by acknowledging that your comments are "over the top". You can place your tongue firmly against your cheek, but anyone who reads this blog knows that the opinions expressed in this post (though colorfully described) are exactly how you feel about the "liberal mind".

Comment by Estreitta de Kluetz
June 24th, 2008 7:56 am MyAvatars 0.2

While I dont agree 100% with you I still think you ROCK!!! Thanks for posting this...I forwarded it to a bunch of my Dem Friends!!!

Comment by Estreitta de Kluetz
June 24th, 2008 8:01 am MyAvatars 0.2

why did it post a picture of a person that isn't me? Weird!

Comment by davidwwalters
June 24th, 2008 8:32 am MyAvatars 0.2

"........if people want clean water, get it from a bottle."
Yes UC.....republicans have made American Corporations Great!

Comment by Urban Conservative
June 24th, 2008 8:51 am MyAvatars 0.2

@David..where the heck have you been? So I take it that you agree with the above and will be voting Democrat across the board. : )

@Estreitta de Kluetz - not sure, but the avatar is based on the email address you use for MyBlogLog.

Comment by davidwwalters
June 24th, 2008 9:19 am MyAvatars 0.2

UC......been busy movin' back to Fayetteville(i was born @ FT Bragg)
-To take care of my old mom(who always votes republican!)
Me? You know i'm voting for the skinny kid w/ big ears.

Comment by Reaper
June 24th, 2008 11:28 am MyAvatars 0.2

@Suburban Moderate

Read that carefully..."Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."

Is a nativity scene a law? Is a statue of the ten commandments a law? Is the mention or implication of God on various government implements a law?

I honestly have no idea where this whole thing came from; even under a loose constructionist doctrine, the word law is immutably irrelevant to anything the government is being ACLU'd for doing.

Comment by Suburban Moderate
June 24th, 2008 1:13 pm MyAvatars 0.2

@Reaper

So I guess our founding fathers intended all along for the first amendment to be toothless. Choosing to draw the distinction that literally means that the first amendment doesn't allow or prohibit anything.

Comment by JarrodM
June 24th, 2008 4:38 pm MyAvatars 0.2

No the intention by the founding fathers was so no religion would rule the nation as such was in England at the time. They did not want a religion telling the people what they could or could not do. But now the religion of Progressives, and the Green nuts is trying to tell all of us how to live our lives.

There is nothing wrong with government displaying religious symbols in a public place. If the majority of people in any area want to have a public display of Baby Jesus, or budda they are allowed to do it. But the government is not allowed to tell everyone that they will be Christians, or that Musliums are not allowed to have a place of whorship.

But for some one who would spend 10,000 extra on a hybrid car thinking that they are going to save money because they don't have to buy as much gas, I would not expect you to truly understand any of that.

Comment by Suburban Moderate
June 24th, 2008 10:00 pm MyAvatars 0.2

@JarrodM

You appear to be echoing my point (a little). The separation of church and state was intended to do just what you describe, allow for choice to practice any religion, or none at all. To be honest I don't really care about public displays, but it puts the government on a very slippery slope of actively or passively endorsing one religion over another. It's easy for Christians to ask "who does it hurt" because they hold the majority position, but take those same people and plant them in a Muslim, Buddhist, or Jewish community and see how they feel then about their preferred practices being blown off. They'd likely feel a little isolated and unwelcome.

And your hybrid rant is absurd. Yes you pay a premium up front for the car, but not 10K over a comparable non-hybrid. If you lock gas in at $4 (generous estimate for your argument) and drive 15K a year, you won't make back your money in the first year...but you will in year 2 or 3. If gas goes up, it'll be even faster. Factor in higher resale and the various financing discounts many lenders offer on hybrids, and you come out even further ahead.

But I guess you prefer to look only at the short term. Hope that works out for you.

Comment by Jonathon Nierengarten
June 25th, 2008 6:56 am MyAvatars 0.2

Suburban Moderate is right on the hybrid comment; amortize the upfront premium of hybrid over nonhybrid, and the bigger the car, the quicker your recover the premium. Prius may take 4 years to recover the premium over, say, a Corolla's price, but an Escape Hybrid or a Tahoe Hybrid's premium will be recovered in 2 years, or less if you drive frequently. And the money you spend on that premium goes to scientists rather than Cartelists. I have nothing against oil companies, but capital outflows to resource-hoarders are definitely bad.

On the other hand, back to the religion, we won't establish a religion, but it doesn't mean that the minority religions shall ruin the fun of the majority. Give me a nativity scene on Christmas on the front steps of SF's City Hall. I'd be amazed if it could actually happen.

Alas, trial lawyers run this nation, de facto, and after this election, they'll officially run it.

Good rant, UC

Comment by Reaper
June 25th, 2008 7:31 am MyAvatars 0.2

Suburban, who's first amendment rights are being curtailed? If anything, curtailing religious expression in public areas limits EVERYBODY's freedom of religion. If a city council votes democratically to celebrate Christmas, that is their prerogative. However, when the ACLU comes in and outlaws it, the collective town's freedom of expression is limited. If a Muslim or Jew feels slighted at the display, that is his problem; the Constitution does not guarantee freedom from insult. The amendment's teeth come in when that city council starts screening prospective businesses based on the proprietor's religion.

Also, Christianity seems to be singled out in these first amendment attacks. If I ever see a Muslim foot wash in a public area (as I'm fairly certain have been implemented somewhere), I'ma raise hell up in here...not because I care either way (I'm not a Nazi, you see), but more to certifiably out the anti-Christian sentiment in this nation.

On hybrids, they are a perfectly suitable transitional technology, but our current battery technology has just as negative an impact on the environment as fossil fuels. With a better storage medium, hybrids will be just dandy. They don't solve the fossil fuel problem, though; they simply curb it. Though I guess the new storage medium would make pure electrics pretty viable.

Comment by Suburban Moderate
June 25th, 2008 11:03 am MyAvatars 0.2

@Reaper

You and urban love to make that grand leap about what people really mean. Being pro-"separation of church and state" doesn't make someone anti-Christian. Because Christianity is by far the dominant religion in the US, that is the one that gets singled out in most examples. It's not that people protesting specifically dislike Christians or Christianity...it's just the one with the largest following of supporters who have the misguided belief that the 1st Amendment was intended to provide Americans with the Freedom to be Christians....rather than the Freedom to choose for themselves.

You make it sound so tragic that people would be deprived of a nativity scene, but what I want to know is why people feel the need to insist it be on government property in the first place (public doesn't have to be government). Ask the average American how many times they visit City Hall in a given year. Answer will be ZERO for almost everyone, and maybe a handful of times for the rest (non employees of course). Yet somehow we NEED to have the religious display somewhere no one would go otherwise?

It's nothing more than a power play by both sides trying to make a statement.

Comment by JarrodM
June 25th, 2008 1:02 pm MyAvatars 0.2

@SM,

It does not matter what way you try to defend it, the bottom line is that the intention was not for religion (no matter what the religion) to not be celebrated in Government offices. A better example then a nativity scene, is the complete harasment that prayer, and Christianity has faced in schools.

The UCLA, and all left wing Anti-Christian organizations, demand that coporations bend over backwords to give every accomidation to Muslims. To include letting them stop working 6 times a day to pray, and to provide special prayer rooms. Next thing you know it will be mandatory for all Americans kids to take classes on the Muslim religion while they are not even allowed to express their own religion in school.

Not to mention that the idea of Creationsiom is illegal to teach in schools, so much for open mindedness. All of this has taken place under the banner and battle cry of seperation of Church and State. So no it is not good enough any more, we need to go back to the true meaning this, and that was that the Government will not recognize any church or religion as the Government religion. Again so that there was not Church of the USA like there was the Church of Egland.

But like most things the libral Kool-aid drinkers miss understand the intention, or even the letter of the law, and make sure that they make it an abomination. Just like the liberals did with Marriage. Keep in mind Marriage is a cration of religion, and more specificly Christianity. The Government in it's effort to promote famlies, and family values added tax benifets to married couples, more and more things came along such as health insurance and the like.

I suppose since the Libral Supream court said that Rapping a child is not bad enough to kill someone for, maybe these rappiest will just be able to marry them some day, after all the UCLA goes out of there way to defend MAMBLA every chance they get.

Well I suppose I got off topic a little bit, but while you and your ilk think that UC is just being way over the top, the fact of the matter is in many cases this is exactly how many librals think and act, and don't tell me people are not that stupid. Because Barrack has all you librals thinking that Taxing the Oil Companies even more will lower Gas prices, what moron came up with that idea.

Comment by Heathenhater
June 25th, 2008 1:34 pm MyAvatars 0.2

the solution to gas prices is regulating speculators. If we did that if would be down to 2$ in 30 days

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/gas-could-fall-2-if/story.aspx?guid={2673C102-68E0-41D9-9C9A-10EE2E723948}&dist=msr_13

Comment by Heathenhater
June 25th, 2008 1:34 pm MyAvatars 0.2

uh oh the whole link didnt go hyperlinked so copy and paste it into another browser

Comment by Suburban Moderate
June 25th, 2008 6:02 pm MyAvatars 0.2

First off I don't know anyone who likes Obama's current "gas solution". Liberal, moderate, whatever. It's a mistake, and is the best thing that could have happened to he McCain campaign.

Your prayer in school example is even more ridiculous. I've got nothing against the idea of teaching religion in school (I think it's important that kids learn about all beliefs to better understand others) but when you teach one and not the others you are effectively endorsing that one. If you want to say that these things are ok if the overall community wants it, what do you say to the Christian family growing up in an almost exclusively Jewish area of Long Island? Should those kids be taught only the Jewish beliefs in school?

There are plenty of places that people get to CHOOSE to go to. Places people CHOOSE to gather. Public schools are not one of them, so I don't see why it's so important that we extend the reach of one group's beliefs into that area too.

You want to insist that it doesn't hurt anyone, but you line up 5 kindergartners and praise 4 of them for being of one faith, and ignore the 5th (no admonishment...just the absence of praise) and you are indirectly telling him that there is something wrong with him.

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

-Thomas Jefferson

Comment by tsudohnimh
June 26th, 2008 3:35 am MyAvatars 0.2

Urban,

I saw the headline of this post in the RSS feed this morning and I clicked on it enraged. I was coming here to rant and rave against voting for Obama... and then I started reading. BRILLANT POST. I imagine you had to buy a new keyboard after this post. I could feel the ranting and that's why I read you. I dig passion and I did freedom.

I'll be posting a link on my blog later today and probably on Freindfeed. Good stuff my man.

Comment by Tsudohnimh
June 26th, 2008 3:39 am MyAvatars 0.2

Urban,

I saw the headline in my RSS feed and I came here all upset that you were going to protest vote for Obama... and then I read one of the best posts I've seen in long while. I bet you needed a new keyboard after that tirade. I dig it man. I'll be posting a link on my blog and friendfeed a bit later today.

Keep up the good work.
Tsudohnimh - KnowtheNetwork.com

Comment by David Fouser
June 26th, 2008 5:07 am MyAvatars 0.2

Urban apparently has yet to meet with a real Muslim unlike many of our troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and non-Muslims around to world - yes, and even here in the USA. They suffer from a deplorable lack of humor, are "eternally offended" by the crusades and anything else that has hampered the ascendancy of Sharia Law around the globe. Give them enough "tolerance" here and watch them shift into aggressive mode from their current good neighbor mode. As we have seen, there are no "moderate Muslims", only apostate and fundamental, fanatical, true Muslims (check out the Koran or Islamic bible).
An aside, perhaps Urban isn't aware of the modified translation of tolerance - it means not just you have your belief and I have mine; but I must not only acknowledge your belief, as well as consider it equal and promote it over my belief. That's the 'new' tolerance ("Criminalization of Christianity" by Janet Folger)
Dave.

Comment by simonesdad2008
June 26th, 2008 5:09 am MyAvatars 0.2

UC,

Isn't interesting that your sarcastic headline actually had Tsudohnimh believing it was possible that you would vote for Barack Obama? You are going to see some prominent republicans come out for Barack in the months to come (Hagel, Powell) for real. I'm particularly looking forward to Powell's endorsement. That will hit Old Man River right between the eyes. Then someone like Jenna Bush's endorsement will just be piling on at that point. There will be evangelicals too. My point is, given a choice, there really is no choice. Take a look at your own blog. On the current home page McCain's name appears exactly once (not including his paid ad). And that is related to a weak attempt at humor related to Susan Sarandon. If a conservative blog's homepage has Susan Sarandon's name as much as the republican nominee for president's name, that speaks volumes for your candidate. I've said it before and I'll say it again, try making the case for Father Time. He is your horse in the race for better or worse. Your lame sarcasm is but is but a fly on the poop of my horse. In the meantime, it's fun to watch republicans spin their wheels looking for traction on any of these lame arguments you have made here. How has that been working for you so far, BTW? Fund raising, polls, enthusiasm? Have you made a dent anywhere? Oh, you're waiting for the 527s? Let's hope they can cobble together the half a billion dollars they will be going against.

Anyway, good luck with the comedy career.

Comment by David Fouser
June 26th, 2008 5:45 am MyAvatars 0.2

FYI to those who consider conservatives lock-stepping behind McCain, this conservative has a problem not with his age, his military record, etc. but with his stand on global warming (a made to order quagmire in a God-regulating global system), his thoughts on Stem Cell Research (unless he's recognizes the difference between Adult and Embryonic) and his belief that we will "fall in line" to prevent a Democratic President. While I believe the hearts and lives of all of us (including presidents, heads of state, etc.) are in the hands of God, I also know we are called to be "salt and light" in this generation. Prayer and Fasting, research and cognition and being ready for an Obama or McCain to win make me look at the candidates for Vice-president, the number of seats up for grabs in the Senate and House, and the possibilities of retirees from the US Supreme Court (replacing Kennedy or Ginsberg with a strict constructionist to go with Roberts and Alito). An aside, watch for the loss of freedom of Christians; if they fall, you may be next - consider our neighbors to the North!
Dave.

Comment by Urban Conservative
June 26th, 2008 6:21 am MyAvatars 0.2

@tsudohnimh & Adalaise

Thanks for the kinds words. Yes, as simonesdad2008 says, I am working on pursuing a career as a comedian!

@Fouser

I am not sure what your point is regarding tolerance and Islam.

Comment by Urban Conservative
June 26th, 2008 6:30 am MyAvatars 0.2

@simonesdad2008

as usual, your argument is weak. All you do is judge me for the content on this blog. As I have told you many many times before, I am no journalist, political pundit or expert in politics. I am one person with an opinion; and I choose to write about the topics I want to write about. I am deeply sorry that you don't like the fact that Susan Sarandon is on the home page, really. I may not be able to sleep at night.

Have I made a dent? Not sure, but at least I am trying; which is more than what you are doing.

Comment by simonesdad2008
June 26th, 2008 8:01 am MyAvatars 0.2

UC,

You miss my point. I'm not judging you one bit. I used to admittedly but then I remembered you are a conservative. I already know what you think. My point about Susan Sarandon and John McCain on your blog is that there is zero enthusiasm for McCain. Even in places like this which would be inclined to at least show his name, he is tied with Ms. Sarandon in appearances. That to me that is hilarious! And you know what, you are right. My arguments are weak. It gets boring beating a dead McCain horse. Barack doesn't need me to get converts because he is brilliantly managing his own campaign. That, coupled with Father Time's daily bumbles makes this too easy. Old Man River is doing my work for me. It's more fun to stand back and watch him self destruct a little more everyday. I think you and others forget that Barack endured a grueling primary. All of his dirty laundry is out there. Barack's campaign is well organized, well financed and his supporters are enthusiastic. His presidential run will be studied and copied going forward from now on. On both sides, I may add.

Stop telling me or anyone who criticizes you or your blog what you are not. This is YOUR blog. Own it. Be proud of it. I agree with 0% of what you say but I like the site and I encourage others to visit. I respect you but I would respect you more if you just said these are my words or my opinions and my blog. Forget the "I'm not a journalist/pundit/expert" crap. Tell us what you are. Nobody cares what you aren't. This is intended to be me, simonesdad2008, telling you, UC, keep up the good work but leave the excuse making behind. And just because you think my arguments are weak, I'm going to step up my game a little. I admit to sinking to the level of the usual discourse on here. That's my gift to you.

Comment by Jonathon Nierengarten
June 27th, 2008 8:15 am MyAvatars 0.2

Not Bashful About Raising Taxes
According to OntheIssues.org the following exchange occurred at the Democratic Presidential Debate in Los Angeles California:

Question: If either one of you become president, and let the Bush tax cuts lapse, there will be effectively tax increases on
millions of Americans.

OBAMA: On wealthy Americans.
CLINTON: That's right.
OBAMA: I'm not bashful about it.

-2008 Democratic debate in Los Angeles, California; Jan 30, 2008

The Bush Tax Cuts
"And the Bush tax cuts--people didn't need them, and they weren't even asking for them, and that's why they need to be less, so that we can pay for universal health care and other initiatives."

-Obama: 2007 Democratic Presidential Debate; Howard University, June 28, 2007

Who Needs Tax Cuts?
"We heard the President say he wants to make tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans permanent, when we know that at a time of war and economic hardship, the last thing we need is a permanent tax cut for Americans who don't need them and weren't even asking for them."

Ahh, Obama.. we love you

Comment by Reaper
June 27th, 2008 9:13 am MyAvatars 0.2

Eh, small business bastards don't need to reinvest their capital into their businesses. Besides, if they're not growing it's probably because they don't have enough black people on their work force.

Comment by ILikeToPissOffCons
July 2nd, 2008 9:54 am MyAvatars 0.2

I'm going to vote Republican because I don't hate blacks, muslims and mexicans enough. They commit all the crimes. They need to be locked up, deported, and tortured.

Capitalism and the market is holy and perfect. Despite what my basic economics textbook says, it has no flaws.

This country needs more religion and jesus so we can become a theocracy like Saudi Arabia. Democracy is so overrated. Homosexuals need to be stoned.

Women and feminists are wrong. Thousands of years of history prove they aren't capable of being equal to men.

Global warming isn't real and i'm willing to bet my and your grandchildren on it. So what if the caps are melting and the polar bears are starving. Those aren't real signs, they're just liberal media lies. Even though I don't really understand science, I'm more sure of it than those highly trained scientists are.

Speaking of science, there is no other field more overrated. No wonder kids these days avoid it. Even they know to turn off their brains and use their hearts more. Faith triumphs over reason every time.

I like to have my cake and eat it too. That's why I want to lower taxes and continue to spend and spend on war, farm subsidies, and other forms of welfare that benefit rich people like myself. Someone will have to pick up the tab, it just won't be me. It'll be those liberal voting youths.

War is wonderful. Especially unnecessary ones. And even better when I'm not the one to fight it. Again that's the job for America's liberal voting youth. They're so unpatriotic anyway. But its nice that they spill their blood over my imagined paranoia.

Civil liberties have to come to an end. Why? Because I'm scared of a cave man half a world away. Good thing we have warrantless wiretaps and got rid of habeas corpus. Torture is not cruel and unusual. Any time those liberal pussies scream "Constitution!!", just snap back "Terrorists!!". It works amazing well.

So you see folks, that's why my vote goes to McCain even though he's not a real conservative. He's a little too liberal for my tastes but at least he's better than that black guy. It just wouldn't be the WHITE house now would it :-) He fought in one losing war and that's the experience we need to fight this one and win it. He admits he doesn't understand the economy. But that's okay since Bush didn't understand anything either and his presidency is the height of american power. It shows in our weak dollar, outsourced jobs, rising unemployment, housing crunch, credit crisis, unjust war, mismanaged Iraq war, a resurgent Taliban, escalation with Iran, North Korea getting the bomb, crumbling infrastructure, inability to handle federal emergencies, weakening american influence, domestic spying, civil liberties trampled, largest federal government ever, rising inequality, broken immigration, stagflation, high oil prices, etc. McCain won't either. And that's what matters and that's the main reason why he should get our vote.

ok, im really sorry everyone. I am a recovering democrat and I am really trying to understand politics. Hollywood can't help me. dailyKos won't accept my sexual tendencies and I can't afford a therapist. I am really really sorry if I offended anyone on this site. I really need help. help me.

Comment by HAHAHA
July 2nd, 2008 10:51 am MyAvatars 0.2

ILikeToPissOffCons,

very clever, but not as good as the post. Try something original; maybe start your own blog or something ... and if you really think conservatives think this way, you have a long journey ahead of you.

Comment by simonesdad2008
July 2nd, 2008 1:47 pm MyAvatars 0.2

What this whole thing is about is George W. Bush. I'm not going to bash the guy. To the contrary. He is partially responsible for the rise of Barack H. Obama. Repubs don't want to say it but the guy's presidency is an absolute disaster. It's an embarrassment really. McCain, who is weak at best as a candidate, can't even enjoy the benefits of an incumbent president. Repubs want to distance themselves from W but they don't want to flock to Father Time. Let's face it, McCain is not a compelling personality, candidate or counter argument to the juggernaut that is Barack H. Obama. I feel your pain as someone who had to hold his nose and vote for Kerry in 2004. Don't get me wrong, I like Kerry but we needed a certified rock star to knock W out. While all you cons and repubs go on about Rev. Wright and Michelle Obama and flag pins people are hurting out there. Nobody is thinking about flag pins when it costs $60 and $70 dollars to fill up. America is like that beautiful woman who finds herself in a abusive relationship. The next guy who comes along doesn't have to be perfect he just has to not be abusive. W has put this country through the wringer. Repubs know it but you won't say it because then you have to admit that you contributed to it with your votes. Once upon the time the repubs had the Reps and Senators and the White House. What did you do with it? Where are we now? Barack is not perfect by any stretch. Only God is perfect. When you cons and repubs ask yourself why Barack is doing so well, generates so much passion and enthusiasm and will eventually relegate Father Time to Bob Dole status start in the mirror. The best you can muster is lame attacks against my man. Yes, my man because I feel invested and optimistic and enthused. Can any of you say that about Old Man River? What you will say is that you are not crazy about McCain but he is better than Barack. OK. So you will essentially be voting against Barack as opposed to voting for McCain. I bet you voted for W with pride and enthusiasm, right? Well we see how that turned out for the country. It should have been enough for you to question your judgment about who this country needs as president. Instead you have actually lowered your standards to accommodate McCain. So bash away at Barack. It's actually an endorsement given your track record of picking presidents the last two terms.

Happy 4TH of July to all. Please be safe if you are traveling the roads this weekend.

Comment by simonesdad2008
July 3rd, 2008 2:07 am MyAvatars 0.2

Reap,
Do you think I haven't absorbed the fact that you and your so-called conservative friends have sold out? Do you think I have not grasped the idea that your conservative principles are only present when convenient? Do you think no one sees that conservatives can be brought into the fold by simply putting an R next to the candidates name? Do you really think McCain has spit in your face time and time again to lure votes from the left? Do you call 5 years and billions of dollars and thousands of lives for a fragile "democracy" that will revert to an Iran-like theocracy the moment we leave largely successful? In other words do you consider the lives and money we spent to convert an Iranian enemy into an Iranian friend mission accomplished? Can you really chalk up these economic times that W has presided over to the media? Do you really think there is a chance history will be kind to W?

It's not that I don't absorb anything. I just want to reinforce to you and others what the conservative label has been relegated to....a disrespected, unimportant, taken for granted, unfortunate, nuisance constituency. One that has to be neither accounted for nor courted. One that will come into the republican fold without even a fight. One that claims to stand on its principles but is really just another voting block that can be bought and sold. I absorb that your rhetoric and standards are hollow and phony. I absorb that you think this country hasn't been bludgeoned enough the last 7 years and you want to inflict more pain. I absorb that the more I get you cons to talk about why you are voting for Old Man River the less credible you become (Ding! That's why I keep coming back to it and you fall for it every time). I suggest you do real conservatives a favor and just call yourselves republicans or political whores or poseurs.

Let me ask you, honestly, if this were Bush running for a second term right now, would you vote for him? You could have any other candidate you wanted as an alternative. Would you still vote for Bush?

Comment by William Hill
July 13th, 2008 3:30 pm MyAvatars 0.2

Did anyone hear about Mc's campaign selling contributor's personal information to advertisers? Probably just another liberal gossip...

Comment by toe
July 14th, 2008 8:00 am MyAvatars 0.2

there are on certain political sites- especially those asking for donations, an item called the "opt out"feature- if not clicked by the donor or reader after giving your information, you have automatically agreed that information may be used (or given , or sold i suppose) to other sources. it has nothing to do with "liberal" anything.

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