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“Agree with her or not, she seems like a sweet kid who means well.” HotAir.com’s Allah Pundit recently Tweeted this reassuring proclamation to his followers. The subject: Meghan McCain. The context: Her political philosophy. Surely, Allah Pundit’s right. Meghan does, indeed, have good intentions. But it is her somewhat anti-conservative viewpoints about which direction the Republican Party should head that drive a wedge between her and her constituents.
In reality, Meghan’s perspectives comprise just one of the many tenants competing for GOP dominance in a smorgasbord of ideological muck. Conservatives and Republicans are embroiled in a high-stakes battle-of -the-ideals, with all sides vying to capture the party’s heart and soul.
Unfortunately, some conservatives have forgotten that we live in a constitutional democracy. If you’ll recall, Laura Ingram was so incensed over Meghan’s political proclamations that she called her a “useful idiot” and made fun of her physical appearance. Just as Miss California had every right to voice her perspective during Sunday’s Miss USA pageant, so does Meghan McCain have the right to express where she stands on her party’s sociopolitical alignment (I bring up this totally random side-note to remind conservatives not to perpetuate a double standard when criticizing “rogue conservatives.” This is America. May we all speak freely).
Two, Contrasting Perspectives
So, what’s the big deal about Meghan, you ask? She describes herself as a Progressive Republican. Others, like political strategist Patrick Ruffini, would likely counter efforts to bestow such an anti-conservative title upon the party. Ruffini sees a need within the movement to return to conservatism – an effort to clarify party roots, while infusing the values and ethics that made the Republican Party so appealing to the Reaganites.
In truth, this brief description is less that a totalistic view of what is occurring within the GOP; Meghan and Patrick merely represent two opposing sides, with a middle-range so diverse it couldn’t possibly be captured in mere paragraphs. Ideological stances are surely in battle, but I’d hardly call it a full-fledged war. The Republican Party has lost step and those within it are attempting to repair its standing. The point of contention surrounds defining a literal meaning for “repair” and crafting an action plan that the majority of the party can embrace.
This past week on Twitter, Patrick said, “We can be more conservative AND more aggressive / dynamic / forward focused. These things are not in tension.” In contrast, Meghan McCain recently wrote, “I consider myself a progressive Republican…” and claimed that “…being a Republican is about as edgy as Donny Osmond.” Talk about a difference of opinion.
The two contrasting perspectives define, in a macro sense, the issues facing the party. While I am a big believer that current perspective is important in determining next steps, exploring the past is the best way to predict what’s to come in politics. A recent history lesson shows us that moving in the opposite ideological direction isn’t necessarily indicative of future success. Don’t believe me? Take a look at the democrats. Following its 2004 electoral defeat, the Democratic Party moved so far left that it’s currently dangling off a cliff over a sea of socialistic decree. Barack Obama’s nomination and subsequent election is the literal manifestation of this reality.
Clinging to the Outer Fringes
Aside from his overt inclination for “spreading the wealth” and his less than moderate positioning on issues like abortion and diplomatic relations with rogue nations like Iran, from 2004 and 2008, Barack Obama distinguished himself as the most liberal member of the United States Senate (or, as the Democrat’s like to say, he earned the title of “Miss Congeniality”). That’s like a baby learning to run before taking first steps. Or, to put it in a more realistic perspective: When a party embraces a candidate whose ADA rating beats Ted Kennedy’s, one can safely say that said party is clinging to the outer fringes of liberalism. Barack Obama is the most left-leaning president America has elected to date. Hands down.
The GOP is now the Democratic Party post-Kerry. This in mind, the notion that becoming more “liberal” will redefine the party in a positive way just doesn’t make sense. Unless Republicans want to see a split that rivals the Catholic-Protestant disunion, I’d advise against such a move.
If you follow the Democratic model, you’ll see a party that elevated another ADA-favorite and a liberal, yet average guy — John Kerry — to take on George W. Bush during a time of relative domestic and international instability (2004). Following electoral defeat and a steady increase in discontent, the Democrats saw a clear opportunity in 2008 to make “change” through the nomination of the most left-minded candidate they could find. Enter, Barack Obama.
A State of Shear Dormancy
When I hear the debate about how the GOP should react, I wonder: Have some Republicans been in a dormant state? Are drugs that induce sense-retardant inclinations being consumed without their knowledge? Don’t they get it? From health care to abortion rights, Barack Obama thinks we’ve done it all wrong. His self-proclaimed mission is to reboot any and all conservatively-influenced policies and his prescription for success is a hyper dose of Democratic doctrine. Meanwhile, Americans are encouraged to stand by while he continues to perform euthanasia on the financial markets.
What simply doesn’t make sense from a strategic or logical standpoint is the idea that becoming Democratic Light will equate to a positive reformation for the Republicans in 2010, 2012 and beyond. Did the Democrats make themselves more conservative, or more moderate for that matter following their 2004 defeat? The most recent bailout and tax code changes should answer that question for you.
As much as I believe Meghan McCain to be an effective leader and someone who does, indeed, deeply care for her country (she is John McCain’s daughter, after all), I deeply disagree with some of her insinuations that the party must move left for sake of survival. Retracing our conservative steps is the answer to formulating a true contingency plan. America doesn’t need a more liberal GOP; she needs a more rational and doctrine-abiding one.
To clarify, this means looking at where the GOP has been in an effort to retrace and correct party wrongs. This process transcends architectural tweaks to the party; it requires recapturing the movement’s heart and soul. It’s not about gay marriage – or abortion (to name only two controversial social issues). This is not to say that conservatives cannot and should not hold opinions about these issues. Everyone is entitled to individual perspective (yes, even Meghan McCain). But, if we truly want to save capitalism, the conservative heart must shift focus to the most pressing issue of our time: America’s economic decline. Fiscal conservatism is the answer.
Conservatives, for what it’s worth, have stuck solidly to the structures surrounding America’s social paradigms, but we have neglected and abandoned our small government mantra. We have allowed our own party members to engage in excessive spending, while sitting back and watching our economic doctrine lay dormant. The fiscal irresponsibility and vampire-esque future-feeding that the current administration is engaging in is a dangerous detriment to our democracy. The GOP needs to retract irresponsible spending policies and make good on its claim that human beings are the primary benefactors and architects of their own destiny.
It’s time to truly embrace small government ideologies. It is not time to abandon our principles in pursuit of a party construct that already exists. What made the GOP so powerful was its embracement of important social and economic issues. In keeping in step, the only natural reaction is to return to our roots, while making good on both areas of political inquiry.
Monday, May 4th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Billy, as usual, you aimed for the nail and hit your foot. There is little doubt that the GOP is in deep trouble - and will remain so for years to come. Why? Because they allowed themselves to be defined by those with the narrowest of views- both social and political. They continue to insist this is "their base".
The conservatives like to promote themselves as the people of high morals and values - with a direct line to god. Today, a poll defined exactly where people stand relative to this:
favorable ratings for Obama:
Jews: 80+% favorable
Catholic: 67% favorable
Protestant: 58% favorable
Agnostic/Atheist: 73% favorable
These are telling figures, no doubt.
Billy, you have - as have the GOP leaders- entirely misread the American people. You will probably find followers of your mind set here on this site, Billy- because the ever shrinking "base" of the GOP is located here. They are not reflective of what a vast majority of republicans find appealing. As long as the GOP continues to keep their tent so narrow minded- they will continue to erode. Meghan is someone that the GOP should embrace for she is one person who could actually make a difference from within- but your narrow-minded "base" called her names and made every attempt to marginalize her- making every attempt to have her look like just another air headed blond. Democrats would welcome her- the GOP dismissed her.
General Powell and George Will endorsed Obama. Did you ever listen to WHY Billly? I was a registered republican. I agreed with their reasoning. I voted for Obama and have since changed my status to independent.
If the GOP continues to take their current direction they will continue to dwindle in membership, their progress will resemble that of a hamster on his wheel.
Monday, May 4th, 2009 at 6:35 am
I recently made a comment on this site regarding these issues, Billy.
One of this site's active posters dismissed all that I said and proceeded to call me names for disagreeing with her. I was automatically irrelevant for voting for Obama. I was placed on her hate list.
Sadly, she represents "the base".
Monday, May 4th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Billy, I get the point you are trying to make but you inexplicably interchange conservative and republican. Like here:
"Conservatives, for what it’s worth, have stuck solidly to the structures surrounding America’s social paradigms, but we have neglected and abandoned our small government mantra. We have allowed our own party members to engage in excessive spending, while sitting back and watching our economic doctrine lay dormant."
A rookie mistake. Conservatism is a philosophy. True, there is the Conservative Party but I don't think that's what you were talking about here. And there lies the problem with you guys. You are stuck like glue to old alliances and strategies and outdated ideas. Conservatives make up only a small fraction of republicans, yet you seek out their favor like some insecure schoolgirl. It's interesting how you say it's not about abortion and gay marriage NOW. Those are bedrock social conservative issues. For some, there are no other issues but those two.
So you argue for "conservatism light" on social issues while you urge a "return to our roots" fiscal/small government battle cry. The two are interwoven in a way that IS conservatism. When you try to separate them out like Meghan McCain did, you see what happened to her.
The other thing with conservatism is that the philosophy has not given us anything new in 50 years. This country is now completely different than the America that existed when the modern day conservative movement was born (I'm using Goldwater as a starting point). Ok, we get it. Small government, cut taxes, guns for everyone, no abortions or gay people or social programs or regulations. What else you got? You did have a captive generation or two still longing for Ward and June Cleaver's America. That day is over. Your strategy seems to be to wait for the super dominant Democrats to overreach (and eventually we will) but this time is a little different. You have the legacy of incompetence and gutter politics on a historic level. Some superpower muscle flexing by our side won't wash that stain away.
Monday, May 4th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Conservatives have to break the cult-leader's hold on a good chunk of the voting public. This will require engaging each leftist who has expressed some regret over his November vote. There are many of these and it is a growing population.
In any event, here is a 12-step plan to work with those that worship Obama and are trying to break free of His cult and of CNN.
http://firstconservative.com/blog/top-ten/12-step-recovery-plan-for-obama-supporters
Monday, May 4th, 2009 at 11:32 am
simonesdad2009:
"Rookie mistake"? You misread the paragraph specified. Conservatives generally belong to a party. Statistically speaking, that party is the GOP. There was no confusion there. I made the distinction clear. The article focuses on the party not moving toward the center. "Our own party members" refers to the GOP, a structure that many who associate (most, rather) with the conservative philosophy identify with. You're point was weak at best. But, thanks for the commentary.
Monday, May 4th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
billy, one of the main problems with the GOP has been their refusal to see the problems that they themselves created. They continue to worship at the shrine of Ronnie- candidates invoke his name with reverence and awe, promising to follow in the footsteps of their lost hero.
perhaps a review of Ronnie's legacy would be in order since he is your #1 - A+ - stand-up - perfect conservative.
Mr. Reagan was:
First to serve as Governor on a "conservative" platform and increase spending by 112%.
# First Governor to increase personal income taxes by 60%, increase the cigarette tax by 200%, and increase state tax collections by 152%.
# First to have a popularity rating of only 35% after his first two years in office.
# First to increase spending by 80%--in only 8 years.
# First to spend more in eight years than was spent in prior 50 years.
# First to cut taxes by 60% for his rich pals.
# First to have increased the national debt faster than growth of national income.
# First to "almost": triple the national debt.
# First to increase the national debt faster than growth of GDP.
# First to double the deficit.
# First to turn America into a debtor nation.
# First to set a record for the largest one day percentage decline in the DOW in history. 10-19-87.
# First to have "real" interest rates of 8% after averaging 1% over 35 years.
# First to keep prime interest rates at 20%.
# First to have home loan interest rates as high as 16%.
# First to allow the savings and loan industry to be raided after signing a deregulatory bill and proclaiming "I think we have hit the jackpot". Come and get it the vaults are unguarded.
# First to have an admiral plead the Fifth Amendment.
# First to have a Marine LT. Colonel plead the Fifth Amendment.
# First to have a sitting cabinet member indicted.
# First to have an Assistant Secretary of State indicted.
# First to have an Asistant Secretary of Defense sent to prison.
# First to have over 100 members of an administration charged with crimes.
# First to have more members of his administration charged with crimes than the cumulative total of all other presidents in the twentieth century.
# First to testify "under oath" 130 times that "I don't remember".
# First to have an Admiral with a photographic memory testify 128 times " I don't remember".
# First to repeatedly falsify his wife's age, as though anyone cared.
# First to promote his religious faith and while never having an active membership in any church.
# First to have unemployment at 10.8% since great depression.
# First to attack a small unprotected nation with 88,000 inhabitants and 10,000 bb guns, and then proclaim "America stands tall again". "we have whipped the Vietnam Syndrome. We have defeated communism".
# #1-in farm foreclosures.
# #1-In bank failures.
# #1-In Savings and Loan failures.
# #1-In percent increase in personal bankruptcies.
# #1-In having servicemen killed during peacetime.
# #1-In largest drop in popularity in one week.
# #1-In being first to honor Nazi Storm Troopers by calling them" Innocent Victims".
# First to lie - over and over- to reporters "I do not dye my hair; my barber uses a special shampoo."
# First to have his wife sit nearby and whisper answers to questions.
# First to have his press secretary remove him from the microphone when he could not answer questions. (When the reporter shouted out "answer my question", the president replied "my handlers won't let me speak").
# First to have a Special Assistant say on national TV "sometimes you had to hit him on the head with a 2 x 4 to get his attention".
# #1-In needing a staff person standby during press conferences to tell the press "what he really meant"
so much for your hero.
Tuesday, May 5th, 2009 at 3:03 am
Why do some republicans want us all to follow suit and become "democrat half caf"? The only way the republican party is going to survive and get back on the right track is to stick MORE to the conservative values and fight back. Stop trying to negotiate with a terrorist (yes, I'm equating dem's with terrorists). You can't. Have you EVER tried to get a liberal to see your point? I asked someone a quesiton the other day about a policy and the only response I got was "you racist" It's a waste of air to agrue with them. They are not going to be happy until we are all dem half caf and people like Meghan McCain shouldn't be sticking out the candle of hope on this issue, get behind your party or switch to the party you want to be with and stop speaking for the rest of us!
Tuesday, May 5th, 2009 at 4:33 am
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I appreciate the concern which is been rose. The things need to be sorted out because it’s not about the individual but it can be with everyone.
stelle
<a href="http://www.thebible365.com">The Bible</a>
Tuesday, May 5th, 2009 at 5:59 am
Aliy- it's sorry thinking such as yours that will keep the GOP in the deep hole it now rests. R.I.P.
Tuesday, May 5th, 2009 at 6:01 am
@Aliy- do you hear the "love it or leave it" in your comment?
I left the republican party because of the narrow scope of ideas and lack of inclusion in the GOP.
Tuesday, May 5th, 2009 at 6:07 am
OK Billy. Are the terms conservative and republican interchangeable? Can they be mutually exclusive? Can conservatives ONLY be republican? What percentage of republicans self-identify as conservative?
Your answers will tell me if you understand my point.
Wednesday, May 6th, 2009 at 3:56 am
Michael Savage banned from entering UK as country publishes list of people not allowed.
LONDON — Britain on Tuesday published its first list of people barred from entering the country for allegedly fostering extremism or hatred, including Muslim extremists, a right-wing American radio host, an Israeli settler and jailed Russian gang members.
another one of your heros, Titus- guess what- Britain does not think you and your ilk fosters love and warm fuzzies either. Imagine that.... but hey, we're all crazy and Titus is right.
Wednesday, May 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Interesting article. Well articulated and fairly well argued. I have one question though..when did Meghan McCain become a leader? Has she been elected to an office? Has she even run for an office? What are her qualifications other than being the child of a former presidential candidate with a laptop and an internet connection? This is actually the first time I've read a description of her as a leader and I'm really quite surprised.
Regarding the base of the Republican party, I have an alternative perspective that might add something to the debate. I would argue that neither party has an actual base, per se. Let's face it, most Americans are interested in having a safe place to call home, seeing their children succeed, watching the big screen and visiting Disney World at least one time (taking a little license there).
Very few Americans possess any hard held views on the size of the government, the role of the government, or the machinations of who should do what inside the wonderful world of 495 (the Beltway that is). Most Americans do, however, have an opinion on abortion, gay rights, the death penalty, gun rights, the deserving or undeserving poor, .........you get the picture: social issues. However, social issues are a trope. Both parties have, and do, dance in and out of the social issues ballroom at will depending on who they need to vote for them at whatever time in history. Karl Rove and his ilk have long exploited this fact in garnering lots and lots of support for the Republican party by branding it with a certain "social flavor" over the past 20 years. Again, this is a trope. A Republican can be in favor of abortion just as easily as a Democrat can feel icky about two men walking down the isle. It's not about the social issues.
The Republican party is feeling the sting at the moment because it has built its base on social issues that, frankly, don't have much to do with it's basic tenant: small government. And the fact that those social issues are holding less and less water over the years (let's face it, time moves forward and people feel less and less icky about two men doing it as we progress as a species), has left the Republican party without any grounding.
I agree with the idea that the GOP needs to drop it's social issues mantra and simply stick to what it is about: small government, laissez-faire economics, and private liberty. Leave the anti-evolution, manifest destiny, anti-intellectualism wingut "base" in the dust and start from scratch.
I'm a liberal and I gotta' tell you that W. really effed you all up.
Thursday, May 7th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Well put harrysmom. I've said many times that we have no idea how we feel about a lot of social issues until we are personally confronted with them. If the child of a republican was being denied their rights or benefits because they were gay, wouldn't they, as parents, stand up for their own child? I think they would. Therein lies the problem. Everyone knows they would yet they go out on their stumps and advocate the exact opposite. Think about it, a constitutional ban of gay marriage would be the only thing in the document that restricts or prohibits rights. The Constitution is a document that grants rights. So what is the ultimate goal of the gay marriage ban movement? On the religious side people forget that marriage is a function of the government. The Pope himself can preside over your wedding but if you don't have that piece of paper from city hall, it is not a recognized union that grants the rights and benefits due. So any way you look at it it's a loser politically. Maine and New Hampshire are on board as of this week. Miss California is on her way to Anita Bryant status.
As for Miss McCain as a leader. Rush is a high school grad only, drug addict who used to call Kansas City Royals baseball games on the radio. He is the de facto leader of that party. It's not meant to disparage the man. It's all true. I point it out to say there are many self appointed, non elected leaders on both sides really. Talk show hosts rarely put their own skin in the game. They are talkers who probably couldn't be eleceted dog catcher in their own neighborhoods. Al Franken is the exception of course. So if Miss Meghan wants to put herself out there, there is no test or requirements or (apparently) no standards. Poof! You're a leader.
Thursday, May 7th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Ha Ha- I'd forgotten about Anita Bryant, but I've never been able to drink Florida orange juice without gagging.
You are right- the social conservatives have always been able to wiggle their way in the public discourses with little to no qualifications. Where did Phyllis Schafly come from anyway? I can't think of any social progressives who have had the same kind of impact, except maybe Timothy Leary- but he was a Harvard professor. Either way- they seem to latch themselves on to a political party that fundamentally has absolutely nothing to do with their social agendas and ZOOM! they are off to set their program in motion.
As for Al Franken....I still expect him to look up and say "Damnit, people like me"
Friday, May 8th, 2009 at 6:54 am
conservatives are pro torture and anti law.
pro freedom to worship as you please as long as it's christian.
pro civil rights as long as you are not gay.
pro life except for the death penalty.
pro freedom of speech as long as you agree with them.
welcome to the "no spin zone"
watch Titus call me names next.
you can tap dance all you wish but your music stopped a long time ago. pay attention.
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 6:45 am
“Agree with her or not, she seems like a sweet kid who means well.”
Almost.
So Close!
Take Two:
"Agree with her or not, she seems like a blithering idiot who is totally clueless."
favorable ratings for Obama:
Jews: 80+% favorable
Obama has authorized Turkey to arm the Lebanese military which is dominated by Hezbollah and he is directing $800 million to Hamas. Apparently, arming and funding genocidal anti-Semitic terrorist groups is the surest way to make four out of five American Jews swoon.
Frankly, I am surprised that a president who has stocked his administration with anti-"Zionists" isn't even more popular in the Jewish community.
Will Obama's rating amongst Jews suffer after he coerces Netanyahu to trade land for terror and demands that Israel unilaterally disarm?
Fear not.
Lemmings have a greater survival instinct than Jews who support Obama.
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Israel does not get a blank check. They have overstepped and occupied land that they have been told to vacate.
you can paint all kinds of lipstick on anything you wish but underneath it all nothing in the middle east will EVER change until the revenge aspect is set aside and logical fair discussions take place.
eye for an eye just will never settle anything.
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 8:48 am
anyreagan - your facts are upside down and backwards.
go read up on facts not opinions. you just look dumb.
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 8:55 am
hey, what happened to the guy who started this site. hardly shows up at all does he. i think that he probably got sick of you bible thumpers and chest pounding knuckle-dragging neanderthals. you cannot have a serious discussion without dragging your religion in as your argument. hasn't anyone told you that we have a separation of church and state here in the US? do you know WHY?
i would be embarrassed to have you all as my spokespersons.
your cruelty and ignorance is absolutely obscene and comical respectively.
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 9:43 am
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In 2010, it is imperative that we send a message to Washington D.C. and elect true Constitutional liberty candidates, such as:
1. R.J. Harris in Oklahoma for the U.S. House: http://rjharris2010.blogspot.com/2009/04/wake-up-america-its-time-to-fight-for.html & http://www.rjharris2010.com/
2. State Senator Randy Brogdon for governor of Oklahoma:
http://www.randybrogdon.com/
3. Ray McBerry for governor of Georgia:
http://georgiafirst.org/SecondVersion/enter.shtml
4. Debra Medina for governor of Texas:
http://www.runmedina.com/ & http://debramedina.us/
5. Adam Kokesh in New Mexico for the U.S. House:
http://draftkokesh.com/ & http://kokesh.netboots.net/
6. Peter Schiff from Connecticut for the U.S. Senate:
http://www.schiff2010.com/
7. Dr. Rand Paul from Kentucky for the U.S. Senate:
http://www.rand2010.com/
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Dearest Southern Belle,
Being called dumb by you embodies the essence of irony.
Contemptuously,
AynReagan
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Dearest Southern Belle,
Upon further reflection, I am pleased that the institution for the criminally insane has allowed you access to a computer. This happy event enables the following remedial actions:
Slam your head into the keyboard.
Rinse.
Repeat.
Continue the process until the cumulative concussive effect renders you conscious.
I am rooting for you.
With Greatest Sympathy,
AynReagan
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
AynReagan, thank you so much for your concern for the Jews. You are correct, the right really needs us around so we can be there to throw in the fiery pit during the end days. Good thing we've got the Republicans around to protect us from ourselves!
I'm interested in the logic of your argument. You suggest that we should be concerned - more concerned- than American gentiles about Hezbollah. It appears that you are following a "all Jews stick together" kind of logic. While I'm not arguing that the concerns of Israel's are of no interest to me, why should they be of GREATER interest to
me than they are to you? Just asking AynReagan...because this tribal type rhetoric- especially the religious sort- is the exact kind of social issues identification with political identification is the exact kind of trope that I speak of above.
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
harrysmom,
Hezbollah has pledged to kill every Jew everywhere.
Hezbollah has not pledged to kill every Gentile everywhere.
Therefore, Jews should be more concerned than Gentiles, although Gentiles who oppose genocide should also be concerned.
Hopefully, the tribalism of that logic is not excessive.
By the way, do you accuse blacks of tribalism for opposing the Klan?
Or would that be politically incorrect so you reserve the snotty comments for Jews?
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
The Klan is in the US, and I believe that all Americans who are interested in social liberty would be equally opposed to the Klan, regardless of racial identification. I'm simply saying that you questioned American Jews being in support of Obama's decisions because, from your estimation, they are in support of Hezbolla, who is not committed to killing Jews everywhere, just the ones who oppress Palestinians. So no, I don't believe that any racial, ethnic, or religious affiliation should make one more sensitive to the oppression of their own socially assigned group. Oppression is oppression, and I actively oppose oppression wherever and to whomever it occurs.
Again, there is a logic that associates social interests with political interests. We really need to unpack that because it's causing political gridlock and frankly, it's damaging to our two party system which I, as a Democrat, feels is necessary to continue for very good reason.
Sorry if I came off as "snotty." I really didn't mean it... well, maybe I did. :)
Monday, May 11th, 2009 at 4:25 am
Hassan Nasrallah: "If they (Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide." (Daily Star, Oct. 23, 2002)
Monday, May 11th, 2009 at 8:43 am
GOP, Conservatives, Loyaliberals, noactivist gays... we have allways being winning, just check history, battles come and go, specially social (against abstract control by u$$ru$libland "intellect") concepts are allways in constant ideabattles, for example, "torturous" water on the face for info to stop actual plots like 9-11 kind and drivebymedia-noilcongre$$program$-u$$ru$libland "marketing politics" covering the fate of abortion (from the butchery, ripping out appart... part) survivol, sistematicaly institutionalized, nationalized... socializ... education culture&borders desicion "makers" (rainmaker$) as another 'global new changes things?"...
bsg dogs of war would be a nice ideas ice breaking, for starters, what on Democrat Loyaliberals programeFREE LEFT?, you know, texas Governor is not the only one teaching how to avoid gov a$$ymetric bombs, in times of war, and over hollyland, homeland of the eagleswatch...
Monday, May 11th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Our beliefs do not need changing, only the delivery of our message. Anyone who believes the GOP needs a philosophical makeover, or a shift in our beliefs is wrong.
Monday, May 11th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
AynReagan, and your point is? Hot air abounds with these fanatical types. I feel safe in my temple, the mall, and my home.
You never responded to my critique of the tendency for people to focus on their own personal social issues and glom them with a political identity.
Tuesday, May 12th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Interesting discussion - oops, I mean closed-minded argument. There's no doubt that an identity crisis exits in the GOP. There's also no doubt that historically there's been a lot of "agree with me or else" attitude from Republicans - but, there have been a lot of changes..both in the type of person one finds in the Republican party, as well as the belief system. It's also true that when it comes to small-mindedness, corruption, or hate mongering the Dems have no room to talk. So now we have two groups that are willing to say anything about the other - true or not. Although I've got to say, there seems to be more tolerance these days coming from conservatives.
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 1:35 am
"Hot air abounds with these fanatical types..."
So true. Remember when Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that he was going to exterminate Jews? Thankfully, insightful individuals like you dismissed his threats as merely being rhetorical excess, and it turned out that he was just kidding.
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Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 1:40 am
JW:
"Although I've got to say, there seems to be more tolerance these days coming from conservatives."
That is not saying much. Liberalism has degenerated to the point where beauty pageant contestants must be destroyed for agreeing with a Democratic president about gay marriage. The liberal movement currently possesses the same level of mental health generally associated with women who date OJ.
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 5:02 am
aynreagan:
"...where beauty pageant contestants must be destroyed for agreeing with a Democratic president about gay marriage."
The president has been given a free pass by the left. Everyone knows a politician will say what needs to be said to become elected. I believe the perception is that he really doesn't believe everything that he says. After all, one must placate the masses.
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 6:16 am
foolish people say foolish things:
Watch: Beck Uses Toys To Explain Slippery Slope
O'Reilly's Ark: Gay Marriage Could Lead To Goat, Duck, Dolphin, And Turtle Marriage
Fox Nation, Hannity Peddle Twisted Claims On Stimulus
Fox Nation portrays Democratic Party moving "From Thomas Jefferson... to Karl Marx"
Fox News pushes GOP horror story of Obama setting Gitmo terrorists loose in U.S.
Limbaugh: Obama administration's economic "objective" is "unemployment" and "more food stamp benefits ... think forced reparations"
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 6:17 am
fox news twists information to suit their political agenda.
they are a joke.
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 6:18 am
more than this, people on this site buy EVERY SINGLE WORD FOX SAYS WITHOUT EVER CHECKING THE FACTS.
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 6:19 am
LATEST HYPOCRITE: DONALD TRUMP.
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 7:25 am
so bho teams from acorn have myavatar0.2 powering, SB (SuperBubble) you have "my mind brieffeings payed by no oil attack congre$$ covered by local govs and mute drivebymedia" as more of us, as stars on the sky oppositors of your terror helping in times of war.
if you read them, you'll immediately realize (if have un programmed brain areas left) Reagan American Heritage may have me on their e-libraries saying (((((((conservatism DOESN't NEEED TO BE REDEFINED))))))))))
but you just pursue us i l l e g a l l y same way ussr, cuba, ma noriega, etc. you keep the social plans till your as usual ends (abstarctly or ... phisicaly like UN$addam, alzarkawi...) in fact, your assymetrics armies left unexposed shall be made invisible, and destroyed, of course...
but bho acorn teams can shut this pc like just a few minutes ago, or now, turn on the fire alarm on this public site, or PI me, don't PI me bro, don't tax me bro...
We need more Teaparties kind of orgs... we need more conservatives and freeliberals, un programmed independent ships for a main opposition to global abortion payed by America, and more taxes and changes to help terror...
Thursday, May 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Joyce, you know how important where for "my" Reagan and "your" JFK the space, I know you don't like space, as That70'showJackie, you're a freelib, a princess kind of freeliberal, loyaliberal...
I'll love you and your show even if you're not voluntiers for potential space colonies and I do...
space Hubble superscope is very important for the education, safety on potential asteroid or any other kind of celestial "problems", they're comun, like iceages or heat starting with the sun...
starwars missile belts are also important for deffending the homeland and even the world already, you've heard about the latest changed courses by man asteroids?
Those "things" have past before, and will happen again, is just "a few million of years, billions more/less for those "accounting days have come down in the mountains, behind the hills... into shadow...
but don't worrie, you just need to do your duty, some will care about this as other's duties...
I love Serenity scifi
and, this is very creationist and deeply conservative: Jupiter 90s COMET "misterious turn and ripping appart falling safely every 12 hours"?, too big to man's artcrafts: ets... the friends "some conservatives, liberals and independents still looking up for"...
You have nice friends too Joyce
Thursday, May 14th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Mostly Foxnews... heritage.org, I've no time, I'm afraid of not mentioning many others who care and fight many ways not only here, nor for not only America, American dream is an universal dream, older than many would even believe, why be like the enemies?
there're no excuses for helping terror by being ignorant and help them not distinguishing those the enemy preffer rather than Bush...
Thursday, May 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Oppositors on Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, thay are watching us, orgs and activists, acorn kind of org$ (bailled aout by bil$) won't let to be organized as commpetition and as with Creation, other "philosophy", they've being roaming freely destroying as they go for decades, unchallenged...
Friday, May 15th, 2009 at 9:08 am
AynReagan, Miss California agreed with Obama, and apparently he announced recently that he agreed with her. I thought the whole hoopla over her answer was ridiculous. Who cares what she or Perez Hilton think anyway? Why are you bringing pop culture into a political discussion too? Oh yea, social issues are sooooooooo relevant to politics.
""Hot air abounds with these fanatical types..."
So true. Remember when Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that he was going to exterminate Jews? Thankfully, insightful individuals like you dismissed his threats as merely being rhetorical excess, and it turned out that he was just kidding."
I wasn't born when Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, and frankly, had I been I would not have supported any political or military actions against him because of it. That would have been "preemptive action," or what some others call stupidity. However, when he started invading countries and removing civil rights from citizens based on ethnic and religious identities, well, then I would have been in support of any political stance against them.
And please stop calling people stupid and giving out numbers to clinics. You look small.
Saturday, May 16th, 2009 at 7:36 am
castro-related/neutrals&libs like Crist
Texas Governor is a real model of what trueconservatives, loyaliberals and realindependents WANT.
I warned you Mr. Gov, Florida NEEDS CLEANNING on GOVs, you helped bho knowing America is turning into a chavez state and every politician who support that is going to blow off this gov face of the Earth.
Florida have being begging you to don't support T E R R O R H E L P E R S, the imbeciles on (proved 30 years P O L I C E TRAINNER AND FIU HELP CASTRO ACTIVIST BRAINMASTER OF LAW alvarez, LEGAL VIEW for attnys, police, judges, paralegals, managers, etc. ON FL) kept pursuing me even if I supported your gov campaign, they still laughing on me, and America...
My mom, my sister and some of my accepted families have being raped, CITY MAYORS, PO LI CE AND GRAL attny, paralegals, judge and
P U B L I X managers had had party time on me, and I still being injured seriously, homeless, jobless, adn the fraking sycoterror po li ce related paralegals still (payed by US money) discriminating me on jobs and opportinities.
OK terrorists on govs, you want to know why I haven't exiled on Texas or Alaska?,
The answer is simple as "my" job as anti-terror activivist: castro agents on the Pentagon, or Miamipolice("law point of view"), and MANY others on America or Panama ARE FIRST DE NOUN CED FIRST BY ORDINARY CIVILIANS (THAT WILL BE ME), is just that, "civilians drink Tea... and talk on American Heritage...
You never know what you would find on the "jobless" lists from labor agencies...
back injury and familycrimes, remmember
Ah!, crist, you have TODAY to STOP THE REPLACING NON CASTRO PEOPLE PREFFERED ASSYMETRICAL CIVILIAN ARMIES PRE INVASION TERRITORY (LOGISTICS) FROM JOBS, HOMES, RULING SIDE OF FAMILY, JUDGES, MANAGERS, GRAL ATTNY, MAYORS, POLICE WHO PURSUE ME AND HAVE ALL MY INFO BUT "IGNORE BY LAW?" "MY" DE NOUN CED PARAPOLITICAL FAMILY CASTRO COYOTE BY MIAMI LAW , you know, Cubans and Hispanics we speak loud, start demostrating you won't be the bho unfamous already social stupitities HELPING TERROR "dreammed" 60th vote to... more terror megahelping this time, and with "MY" and Fl support...
remmeber, forget about any votes if tomorrow still "like nothing" laughing (WITH POLICE) the CIA already
interveined "castrocoyote churches" (why those "pastors" can be freed over CIA, FBI?: gral attny, mayors...), jobplaces with "my" records from "miamidade police or gral attny, mayors paralegals, judges (pedraza f/expl), "what have you" still have me homeless while a castrocoyote nest is being made inside my real family, or police car-stress, whatever, and... as usual you"ll deal with my AD HONOREM job (I MAKE AMERICA SEFAR THAN ALL OF YOU TOGHETER) I was waiting this latests years for this job...
I'm tired of police getting mad if I found any cleanning windows jobs mad because I'm not dead yet on their streets of infamy...
OK?, we're now eye by eye...
remmember, NOT EVEN ONE car following, not even one face from gangs or police mad because I can eat today...
UN DERS TAND?
Saturday, May 16th, 2009 at 7:54 am
AHHHH!, 60th vote, I want all the "by law following and info-bank me" paralegal network names receiving money from gov, armed and with a pc on the pdcruiser, so efficiently selectively, to give to Rush and others fighting for what you "ignore so UNAMERICANly" so other families castro don't want on the gracefull America soil or any soil won't suffer again...
out of touch?, actual u$$ru$libland&friends are SOOOO OUT OF GRACE...
ok?, attention!, terror logistics imbeciles, bring you ugly faces to my anti-assymetric ax
Saturday, May 16th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
"I wasn't born when Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, and frankly, had I been I would not have supported any political or military actions against him because of it."
Dear Harrysmom,
In the future please use contraception.
Thank you.
Sunday, May 17th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
I get the impression you think you are another anne coulter. Her humor is corny, and you don't even come close.
I find it curious that you can't respond to ANY of my critiques. Shows how empty the basis of your beliefs are.