10 Reasons Why I Am Thankful and Irritated During this Thanksgiving Season

November 25th, 2006

As the 2006 Thanksgiving passes, I thought I would take this opportunity to list out 10 reasons why I am thankful and irritated during this season.

The GOOD list

  • I am thankful that I live in a country where I can freely worship a God I want to without being killed or decapitated.
  • I am thankful I live in a country where I can still say Merry Christmas in a retail store, and perhaps only offend just a few customers.
  • I am thankful that I can choose who to vote for without being coerced, threatened or killed. Of course, I get criticized all the time by libs that I interact with; but thats a given living in Nancy Pelosi land.
  • I am thankful that I live in a country where I CAN vote.
  • I am thankful that I can assemble and protest (even though I dont); Ill leave that up to the libs; they do a pretty good job at it.
  • I am thankful that I dont live in a country thats terrorized by suicide bombers daily. Although, I am not totally convinced that my future grandchildren will be able to say the same thing when they grow up.
  • I am thankful to live in a country that has given me the opportunity to work hard, get an education (without the Governments help) and provide for my children the things that I didnt have when I was growing up.
  • I am thankful I live in a country where I can blog about the idiocies of the left and constantly poke fun at their insane actions and idealogy.
  • I am thankful that my daughter goes to a school that still recites the pledge of allegiance. If you dont know it, you can learn it here.
  • I am thankful that only 60% of the US population actually vote. Too bad voters werent required to pass a litmus test before entering the poll booths.

The BAD List

  • Im irritated that all my neighbors are uninformed liberals.
  • Im irritated that Bush is soft on illegal immigration. I wish he would grow some cojones and start offending the left more often.
  • Im irritated that the ACLU fights for everyones civil liberties except for Christians.
  • Im irritated that the ACLU defends scumbags like NAMBLA. Next thing you know, they will make claim that the Megans Law website in California (and others like it) are unconstitutional. 
  • Im irritated that Sean Hannity is so PRO-REPUBLICAN. I do love Sean and agree with him 99% of the time but in his eyes, all republicans and the decisions they make are the right ones.
  • Im irritated that most extreme liberals hate Jews and cant even give a valid reason as to why. They support Palestine, Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations and believe that Israel is the one that should STOP the violence. The fact is that if all of Israels neighbors disarmed themselves, there would be peace in the Middle East. If Israel disarmed, there would be millions of murdered Jews.
  • Im irritated that the mainstream media only focuses on the bad news in Iraq. The fact is that there is allot of good news that most people dont see, hear or read about.
  • Im irritated that the Niners still suck this year.
  • Im irritated that its no longer Merry Christmas, but Happy Holidays. Another attempt by the left to be politically correct and not offend others. Remember, tolerance to all religions except Christianity is what is really going on. Even the liberal cable news station CNN reports that most Americans prefer to say Merry Christmas. 
  • Im irritated that Vanished is not airing the last three episodes on television. Im seriously bummed about this one.

Okay, I am done complaining but feel free to add to either list. And, to any libs that are reading….Merry Christmas!!!

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36 Responses to 10 Reasons Why I Am Thankful and Irritated During this Thanksgiving Season

  1. Loud Patriot Says:

    "I’m irritated that it’s no longer Merry Christmas, but Happy Holidays. Another attempt by the left to be politically correct and not offend others. Remember, tolerance to all religions except Christianity is what is really going on. Even the liberal cable news station CNN reports that most Americans prefer to say Merry Christmas."

    Because the US is about 85% christian. Must be hard being the majority. You must feel so persecuted.

    Few people realize that the origins of a form of Christmas was pagan & celebrated in Europe long before anyone there had heard of Jesus Christ.

    No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on. From the biblical description, most historians believe that his birth probably occurred in September, approximately six months after Passover. One thing they agree on is that it is very unlikely that Jesus was born in December, since the bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. This is quite unlikely to have happened during a cold Judean winter. So why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th?

    The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas. In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.

    In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born.

    In northern Europe, many other traditions that we now consider part of Christian worship were begun long before the participants had ever heard of Christ. The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year. As the Sun God grew and matured, the days became longer and warmer. It was customary to light a candle to encourage Mithras, and the sun, to reappear next year.

    Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun. The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods.

    The tree is the one symbol that unites almost all the northern European winter solstices. Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again. Evergreen boughs were sometimes carried as totems of good luck and were often present at weddings, representing fertility. The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees.

    In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.

    Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first. The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany. A prominent Lutheran minister of the day cried blasphemy: “Better that they should look to the true tree of life, Christ.”

    The controversy continues even today in some fundamentalist sects.

    "I am thankful that I can assemble and protest (even though I don’t); I’ll leave that up to the libs; they do a pretty good job at it."

    Just as long as it's in a "free speech zone".

    "I am thankful that I don’t live in a country that’s terrorized by suicide bombers daily. Although, I am not totally convinced that my future grandchildren will be able to say the same thing when they grow up."

    Maybe you should be really thankful you don't live in a country that is bombed daily and have no defense except blowing themselves up to try and defend their country.

    "I’m irritated that the mainstream media only focuses on the bad news in Iraq. The fact is that there is allot of good news that most people don’t see, hear or read about."

    What good news? Killing 100's of thousands of iraqi's because saudis and some afghanis attacked the US.

    "I’m irritated that Bush is soft on illegal immigration. I wish he would grow some cojones and start offending the left more often."

    Maybe if bush enforced the laws already on the books prosecuting corporations that hire illigal immigrants you wouldn't have to be at at liberals?

    "I am thankful that I live in a country where I CAN vote."

    And have the private multi-national republican owned corporations use secret software to count the vote.

    "I am thankful to live in a country that has given me the opportunity to work hard, get an education (without the Government’s help) and provide for my children the things that I didn’t have when I was growing up."

    So either you used public education (government help) or you make more than the average family in the US.

    "I am thankful I live in a country where I can blog about the idiocies of the left and constantly poke fun at their insane actions and idealogy."

    Yep, and vice versa. except the "insane actions and idealogy" of the fascist loving conservatives.

    "I’m irritated that all my neighbors are uninformed liberals."

    I’m irritated that all my neighbors are fascist conservatives.

    "I’m irritated that the ACLU fights for everyone’s civil liberties except for Christians."

    I’m thankful that the ACLU fights for everyone’s civil liberties including Christians.

    "I’m irritated that the Niners still suck this year."

    I’m thankful that the Niners still suck this year.

    "Remember, tolerance to all religions except Christianity is what is really going on. Even the liberal cable news station CNN reports that most Americans prefer to say Merry Christmas. "

    You poor persecuted christian. How can you be in the majority but still be the persecuted? What a bunch of poor, poor, pitiful me crap.

  2. sparkplug49 Says:

    I'm irritated that I have to press 8 for English. I'm also irritated that at my school, they stop classes to show Al Gore's power point but chastise a Vietnam vet who came to speak in chapel. I am thankful that my parents have enough money to send me to a private school where we can have a prayer service for those serving in Iraq but I am disappointed that I was one of 3 students there (out of 1500). I am thankful for people who are fighting and dieing so uninformed libs can make be loud and make stupid comments. I am thankful for being an American.

  3. Tom Checkosky Says:

    Wow! If 'Loud Patriot' gets his panties in a bunch here, he should check out http://doctomrod.blogspot.com where we LIVE for mindless liberal retorts!

    What good news? Killing 100's of thousands of iraqi's because saudis and some afghanis attacked the US.
    - you ARE talking about Saddam right? B/C if you aren't and you think the US has killed "100's of thousands" please pass that crack pipe to your left.

    And have the private multi-national republican owned corporations use secret software to count the vote
    - so we allowed all these liberals into office a few weeks ago?

    I can go on all day, especially when you bring up all the pagan references to Christmas - ya know July 4 is a bullshit holiday b/c we can't REALLY be celebrating the birth and/or freedom of our nation b/c back in 1000 BC the Chinese used gunpowder and fireworks so I am just proving why liberalsim is a mental illness..........you make it too easy

  4. Scal Says:

    My dear buddy Tom, you might want to refrain from the "mental illness" crack, because your total disregard for basic grammar isn't making you look any better.

    "you ARE talking about Saddam right? B/C if you aren't and you think the US has killed "100's of thousands" please pass that crack pipe to your left."

    --You might want to look at the numbers. See here: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

    Now, it isn't hundreds of thousands, but 50k does seem like a relatively beefy amount, non? I'd be hard-pressed to say that fifty thousand people dead because of our intervention is a minuscule amount. By the way, might want to be careful of the ad Hominem reference in there.

    "so we allowed all these liberals into office a few weeks ago?"

    --The laws of checks and balances still apply. Sure, there may be a Democratic majority in Congress now, but that doesn't stop Bush's veto stamp. Now, if there was the possibility that the Democrats could have hit the two-thirds majority needed to overrule the veto, we may have had a different result...

    "I can go on all day, especially when you bring up all the pagan references to Christmas - ya know July 4 is a bullshit holiday b/c we can't REALLY be celebrating the birth and/or freedom of our nation b/c back in 1000 BC the Chinese used gunpowder and fireworks so I am just proving why liberalsim is a mental illness..........you make it too easy"

    --What does the method of celebration have anything to do with the meaning behind the holiday itself? As stated above, the entire concept of "Christmas" overran the Pagan traditions in honor of their sun god. Saying that we shouldn't celebrate July 4th because the Chinese invented gunpower and fireworks it like saying the British shouldn't celebrate Guy Fawkes Day because people were lighting fires before November 5, 1605. Really.

    And for the record, an ellipsis contains only three consecutive periods. Any more, and it is no longer punctuation.

    Have a wonderful day.

  5. Angela Says:

    Hey, the 49ers have a good chance of winning the division this year! Wouldn't that be something!

  6. Damion Says:

    the 49ers as of right now are 5-5 one game out of first in their division... and they play seatle on more time... So their destiny is in their hands still... but they will still suck as long as John York owns the team... sadly...

    Now that the important stuff is over...

    as for when jesus was born you forgot that mary and joeseph where headed home for the census, which did not take place in december...

    I'm sure there are good things going on in iraq that do not get published due to the media... but the over ruleing fact is that until they have control of their own future we will never know if the "good" we are doing is what they want... why is it so hard for politicians to focus on the people that elected them and not worry about others who have not asked for help... If you walk up and give a starving man a jacket I'm sure you helped but you did not solve his problem... We need to go back to making this country the best it can possible be... we should not invade at the behest of companies but rather because they asked for our help...

    As far as the illegal aliens I agree with the fact that we need to enforce the laws already on the books... I hate when people make new laws that over lap ones that have never been inforced anyway... It's usually just a cheap plow for votes... but really I don't want to pick oranges yet I enjoy haveing them in my fridge at a cheap price...

    I'm not conservative and I'm not liberal... I actually refuse to follow one path because every individual problem needs to be looked at and examined before jumping to a conclusion... most party members just follow a line cause that is what they are told to do... but anyway Go 49ers... Peace

  7. Bud Says:

    MY TWO CENTS:
    I'm disappointed that I reside in one of the 13 original states known as
    ultra, ultra liberal Massachusetts where the legislature has the arrogance of
    ignoring petitions put forth by the people for referendums to be placed on
    the ballot.

    This and other serious problems existing within the halls of Beacon Hill have
    made us the laughing stock of the nation....an area once known as the
    "Athens of America."

    The ACLU and NAMBLA are alive and well in this Commonwealth.

    I am grateful that I'm a senior citizen and can leave this insane merry-go-
    round in the not-too-distant future.

    Just hope the N.E. Patriots come through with a victory over 'da Bears and
    make it into the playoffs.

    Having relatives residing in northern Cal., I hope the Niners can succeed
    also.

  8. Buster Says:

    I'm thankful to live in a Country that allows me to read and respond to everyone's point of view. While I do have my own set of thoughts and beliefs, I'm glad that I can read people's views that are different from mine. I've learned from open discussion and my political viewpoint has changed because of it.
    We live in the greatest Country in the world. Whatever your political beliefs are, remember that brave men and women are giving their lives so we can express our thoughts. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and do something for a member of our military this Holiday season.

  9. Michael Says:

    Loud Patriot - I appreciate some of your thoughtful and amusing responses. However, next time you post on my blog (or any blog), you should really write down your own thoughts.

    Your response about when Christ was born was taken word-for-word from the following forum:

    http://forums.fingerlakes1.com/showflat.php?Cat=Number=487434Main=486285

    It's called plagiarism and because of this, I refuse to address any of your other responses.

  10. Michael Says:

    Sparkplug - me too. I firmly believe that we should help people from other countries learn English. How else are they supposed to be successful here in the US? I am also irritated/thankful for many of the same reasons you are....

    Tom - thanks for stopping by and making reference of my blog in your blog. I'll be sure to check it.

    Scal - you must be an English teacher. By the way, the Iraq body count website is based on assumptions and estimates; and I would argue that we are not responsible for each and every death in Iraq, especially those who are killed by insurgents. What this website doesn't measure is those killed everyday prior to the US invading Iraq. I read one report that Saddam was responsible for killing more than 5,000 people daily; and this doesn’t include the 100,000 Kurds (men, women and children) he gassed using weapons of mass destruction.

    Angela – you are right, but too bad they lost today. I was really bummed as I have been a Niner fan all my life, all 32 years.

    Damion – I like your optimism but I am a realist and the Niners do not have a defense whatsoever. The only player that is really making a Pro Bowl impact is Frank Gore. Thanks for your other comments; you brought up some really interesting points. However, I would consider being a Conservative or Liberal a state of mind, a perception, and even a world view; not a party line.

    Oh, and one other thing. I also like the oranges, apples and grapes sitting in my fridge right now, and like you, I would probably never take a job picking them. I do know that there are several non-violent criminal offenders in our prison systems that we could use for this labor.

    Bud and Buster – thanks for stopping by. I appreciate your responses.

    -Michael

  11. Michael Says:

    Oh, and all you Pats fans...good luck pulling out a victory over Da Bears. Looks like its 10-3 going into the 4th quarter.

    C'mon...you guys have won 3 Superbowls in the last 4 years...share the love with someone else. I'd really like to see Payton with a ring.

  12. al rotundo Says:

    what you call liberalism, we used to call moderate (and sane). what you call conservatism, we used to call crazy. the goalposts have been moved. this last election showed that the population understands that. because while we are and always have been a nation of moderates - the extremists always define the center. Consider: if foxnews is "fair and balanced" and ABC, CBS and NBC are the "liberal media," then what do you call AirAmeirca Radio? the presence of al frankin and company is the blatant counter-balance that shows us how skewed to the right the field was before their arrival. that should be obviuous to everyone.

  13. roger hayward Says:

    The problem we have today is not wether one is Liberal or Conservative, as it is proper and heathy for a Nation to have different ideas. The problem we have today is with the perpetually offended.
    It makes no difference how the tradition of Christmas got started, or what the true birthday of Christ is. What is important is that it gives comfort and joy to millions of people. For one season of the year, people come together to experience the joy of giving and celebrating the birth of our Lord.
    The idea that if one person is offended by this tradition, and millions enjoy it, the millions have to stop. The idea that one of the perpetually offended class has more rights than anyone else is in itself offensive.
    Now to clear up some other myths:
    If you call yourself Anti-War and support the other side, you are not
    Anti-war you are anti-American.
    If you call your self an enviromentalist and don't demand that China and other 3rd world countries stop polluting you are not an enviromentalist, you are an anti-capitalist
    If you demand that others give up what they enjoy because you are offended, you are not a Liberal, you are a bore

  14. Michael Says:

    Al - you are wrong. The liberal movement first started in the 60s when the hippies started protesting the Vietnam war so there is no way that YOU used to call liberalism moderate or sane. Unless of course, one hasn't fully recovered from all the hallucinogens during this same time period.

    Oh, and yes, Fox is more conservative than they are liberal. ABC, CBS, and NBC are the liberal media. And, AirAmerica is considered the insane liberal left media that failed!

  15. Michael Says:

    Roger - I agree with you 100 percent. Thanks for stopping by.

  16. Martika Says:

    Is there anything that one can be thankful for that comes from the other wing?

  17. Shooter Says:

    "...Maybe you should be really thankful you don't live in a country that is bombed daily and have no defense except blowing themselves up to try and defend their country..."

    Defend their country against what? Freedom?? Representative democracy??? Religious tolerance????

    Oh, how horrible! Oh, the *humanity* of it all!

    LOL...what a typical liberal socialist jerkoff.

  18. DavidH Says:

    Michael:
    "I read one report that Saddam was responsible for killing more than 5,000 people daily"

    OK, just wanted to point out that a little math reveals that this is complete crap. If he killed 5,000 people per day, he would kill 1,825,000 people per year. Iraq's entire 2006 estimated population is under 27 million (according to the CIA World Factbook, linked in my name). Other estimates I have seen spread around the web:
    1994 - 19,900,000 ( http://tinyurl.com/yeah4q )
    1997 - 22,219,289 ( http://tinyurl.com/yzh3r6 )
    2003 - 25,175,000 ( http://tinyurl.com/ybt97f )

    I'm sorry, but if Saddam was killing nearly 2,000,000 people per year, the population would not be growing like this. According to the CIA World Factbook, the current birthrate is 31.98 births per 1000 people per year. Using the 1997 numbers, that works out to 711,000 births per year. But if Saddam were killing almost 2 million a year, the birth rate would need to be 3 times as high in order to have the population increase from 1997 to 2003. (And that is not even taking into account deaths that were not due to Saddam.) I'll grant it may have been a little higher, but to be at 100, then drop to 32? Not happening. For reference, the highest birth rate in the entire world is Niger, at 50.73 ( https://www.cia.gov/cia//publications/factbook/rankorder/2054rank.html ).

    And Shooter:
    "Defend their country against what? Freedom?? Representative democracy??? Religious tolerance????"

    Maybe defend their country against the occupying military of another country which has killed and raped their fellow countrymen? I'm not saying the U.S. is wrong to be there, but I am saying I could see how an Iraqi could be confused about how benevolent our intentions are.

  19. Logical Thinker Says:

    DavidH, birth rates guesses are only approximate and are often off by a factor of two to four. Second, you assume Saddam was killing every day, that is not likely, more likely is that there were periods of killing. What is know is that he did kill in the millions.

    To who ever the hell posted 50k killed by America crap, more Iraqis are killed by insurgent Iraqis and external Islamic fundie groups that by American troops

  20. roger Says:

    even as bad as it is in Bagdad today, there are less people dying than when Saddam ran Iraq.
    Because of the new belief that war, as America wages it, should be as bloodless as possible. It is impossible to win when the other side will do what ever it takes to win.
    However this new idea is not without dire consequences. If your enemy does not fear you he will oppress you. No one ever won a war with their hands in the air, and some times surrender is not an option.
    The ability to divorce what to results will be on America if we lose in Iraqfrom reality astounds me.

  21. roger Says:

    even as bad as it is in Bagdad today, there are less people dying than when Saddam ran Iraq.
    Because of the new belief that war, as America wages it, should be as bloodless as possible. It is impossible to win when the other side will do what ever it takes to win.
    However this new idea is not without dire consequences. If your enemy does not fear you he will oppress you. No one ever won a war with their hands in the air, and some times surrender is not an option.
    The ability to divorce what the results will be on America if we lose in Iraq from reality astounds me. With all the emerging crises that are forming out there. the nuke threats from Iran, and North Korea. The re-emergance of our Soviet threat. The China arms build up. Who will be our Allies to counter this threat? Who can take America seriously any more?
    We have become a nation that ignores reality and focuses on less threats, that may or may not take place. Because it is the easy way it will not save us from the evil that wants to destroy us.
    But at least wait until after the Super Bowl when the Patriots rule.

  22. jesus Says:

    Instead of Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas, I wish you to Go Fuck Yourself this December. I used to like Christmas until the last few years assholes like you and O'Reilly won't shut up about "The War on Christmas."

  23. Michael Says:

    Jesus (great name by the way) - I assume you are the same guy with the bd name that periodically leaves rude comments on my blog. I am not going to delete them because it just further validates how insane you liberals are.

    On a side note, you really shouldn't leave comments on my blog when you are at work, especially if you work for the US government (like the SEC). You see, when you leave a comment, you automatically leave your ip address:

    162.138.176.51 , secfwopc.sec.gov

    Now, I could be a jerk and send an email to the SEC and complain about your derogatory comments, but I won't since it really doesn't bother me. Next time, why don't you leave your real name and email address so we can have an intelligent conversation, if of course, you are capable of having one.

  24. Tom Says:

    Scal,

    I offer my sincere apologies that I blatantly ignored proper SCAL POSTING GUIDELINE etiquette. Upon realizing my blogging gaffe, I reprimanded myself to a corner with a pen and paper in hand. I then proceeded to write 100 times: I will never be ignorant of SCAL POSTING GUIDELINE etiquette. Additionally, since this can never occur again, I placed pictures of Hillary Clinton all over my house proclaming her to be our rightful leader come 2008....(I used 4)then I awoke screaming in horror. I doubt he is an English teacher, probably grabbed a thesaurus in a forlorn attempt to appear more intelligent.....(I used 5)

  25. Lolly Says:

    Michael, your blog is fantastic. LOVE IT... and I couldn't agree with you more. :)

  26. Noah Says:

    Tom,

    Even though Scal was being a jerk about it, he's right about the ellipsis thing. Some of us are just grammar nazis I guess... but admitting that you have a problem is the first step on the road to recovery. :P

    In terms of party lines, I guess you could say that I'm socially democratic and more conservative economically. I enjoy all of what's said, and though I can't agree with everyone's point of view I can see where most are coming from. I guess I just have a couple things to say.

    I'm not a Christian of any type, but I have and will still call Christmas 'Christmas.' No matter who you are, if it's the season I may say Merry Christmas to you. Deal with it.

    I don't like voting party lines, because you don't look at what the real issues may be in a situation. The more background information you have, the better choice you will be able to make. I think this runs true for about every situation you can come to!

    There is no national language for the United States, though for most of it's life the vast majority of spoken word has been English. I would prefer that the Official National Language would be English, or even American English, but on another note I can see why there isn't one. The whole melting-pot ideology that the nation was founded upon is somewhat apathetic in a sense, but maybe that's why I love America -- you can do just about whatever you want to do.

    I don't think these last two were really touched upon in any above comments or the article, but here goes. I think that health care should be either government-funded, -paid, or -subsidized. The national health care budget would have to be raised, but I think it could be done. Health care companies can stay in business, and all citizens can have access to the highest quality health care in the world.

    I'm a commuter, so this is on my mind frequently -- I'd say at least three-quarters of the drivers on the road shouldn't be, there are many who don't deserve a license! Driving is a priviledge, not a right, and it should be treated as such. So many drivers on the road do not follow the rules of the road, perhaps on purpose, or perhaps because they don't know the rules of the road. I live in Colorado, and there are signs roughly evey five miles that clearly display the state law: Keep right except to pass. Who follows this law? I can easily say less than half the people on the road pay heed to this, but it's just one grievance. Turn signals are meant to signal the person behind you that you WILL be turning in the FUTURE, not, "I'm turning right now so I hope you have good brakes!"

    It's been fun,

    Noah

  27. rev. carter Says:

    isn't hating someone based on their point of view the single most stupid reason to hate someone?

    whatever happened to small government?

    to be honest, i think the aclu's defence of nambla was the biggest mistake they have ever made if only for the p.r. nightmare that has followed. they do good work, they try to keep the government from overstepping its bounds they try to keep the government small, in a way.

    but why is it so hard to comprehend that just because you and yours are devout christians, means that everyone is or should be a devout christian. christmas is a pagan holiday the historical evidence is overwhelming. does it mean we shouldn't celebrate it? no, because its a fun time and promotes goodwill. does this mean that there should be crosses and nativity scenes in front of government buildings? no because government should not promote religion in any form. why? because there are people who aren't christians who should be equally represented even if they are in the minority.

    the real sane point of view is that neither liberals nor conservatives have the right ideas. both sides are playing to the middle from their wacked out points of view. i find it repulsive that these days you vote based on who you don't want in office rether than whether the a-hole you're voting for has a clue as to a semblance of a solution to just one problem.

    the fact is, both sides do so much demonizing of each other that they fail to see the demons in themselves.

    i wish just once, an elected official would just answer "fuck if i know!" instead of "i have all of the solutions! vote for me because my opponent hates children and wants to make beastiality legal, nay mandatory!"

    let's face it. both sides of the arguement are being made by people who a) don't have a clue and b) are proud of it.

    oh and just to be topical, i wish the 9ers didn't suck this year or any year.

  28. rev. carter Says:

    oh sorry that sentence should read:

    but why is it so hard to comprehend that just because you and yours are devout christians, Doesn't mean that everyone is or should be a devout christian.

    and i guess i should capitalise once in while.
    of course using a person's grammar to refute an arguement is pretty immature.

  29. Sean Says:

    Pelosi land? Your worried about that. Its the land of Bush that has made the USA an unrecognizable place.
    Think not?
    Then meditate on these next time you worship or dwell on a merry christmas,

    Torture, rendition, signing statements, no more habeous corpous,
    thousands of dead Americans, hundreds of thousands Iraqis dead, New Orleans, our country controlled by conservative politicians and its being torn apart. Look out your window. Consider the last six years. How could it get any worse? Wait I know, two more years of bumbling Bush in the White Hoiuse.

    Happy holidays

  30. roger Says:

    First things first, There is no seperation of Church and State written into the Constitution, It was imposed there by the Supreme Court. The First Amendment reads That the Government shall not establish a State Religion or prevent the free exercise there of. If they taught people anything of History, they would know about the problems that the English had between religions. They then would get a perspective. They did not make that provision so that no one would not get offended. The Idea that if you are offended it gives you a right that trumps everyone elses rights it nuts. It was never intended to give Athiests, Buddists, Islamists the right to complain that it offends them, and establish the tyranny of the minority. No one demands that you participate in any religious ceremony, and the Founding Fathers in the other half of the establishment clause also says that the Government cannot prevent the free exercise of any religion, It did not say unless someone objects.
    Second All I see fromyou Bush Bashers is critiizism. Not one constructive comment on what should have been done, because that would take an intellectual arguement on your part to defend your position. All you can do is put out Democratic talking points, and sit back and pat yourself on the back. What is your answer on the economy. Defend tax increases vs tax cuts. We were attacked, Defend your position on response. What should have been done. What would you have done. But you come on websites, put other peoples inane responses as if you had a logical thought and think you are more informed that we Conservitives are.

  31. Damion Says:

    ummm, roger you might want to keep reading the first amendment... The part that says we have the right to free speach would be what give everybody the right to complain about what offends them. Just like you have the right to complain about people who don't like bush.

    you want some answers... how about to help the economy we stop giving out no bid contracts to major corporations and let a free market actuallyy exist. we don't need to increase taxes we need to stop the rich from weesling out of paying hundreds of thousands in taxes while making sure the middle class pays every dime. we were attacked and how is it going getting osama. what was the reasons we attacked iraq again. I support the war on iraq I think we should be there. But the reasons we said we were going in were wrong, deal. We should not leave till they can support themselves. if we do then the void will allow another sadam in. What I would have done diffrent. well lets begin with actually haveing a good stratagy to win. not just planning to shock and awe them into surrender. it's like any other blitzkrieg it worked well at the begining and then slowly faded once the enemy decided not to be scared anymore. The military should have planned for a drawn out war. you know like planning for the worst case senario not the best. I personally make sure I have hurricane suplies incase one hits. I don't plan a big party on a boat to say the hurricane season is over in september. The military is supposed to have war games and contingency plans. yet it looks like they are reacting instead of attacking. so yeah if I was going to plan an attack I would have first made sure that we were ready for a long fight. I would have had plans to last till at least the end of my second term, cause you know after which it would not matter as much to me...Peace

  32. roger Says:

    Damion
    everyone has a First Amendment right to disagree but that was not my intention in critizing Bush bashers. People like Sean do not offer anything other than Democrat talking points. You however have an intellegent offering. I may disagree with some of your points, but I respect your right to express them.
    As for taxes, understand that the rich will never pay the same taxes as we poor slobs because there is no tax on wealth, only income. That is the reason that idiots like Ted Kennedy and John Kerry can seem to be on the side of the poor or middle class. Their wealth is shielded and can't be touched. It is only high income earners that are taxed. The actual percentage is that 75% of the people pay only about 20% of the taxes, and the bottom half only pays 3.4%. John and Teressa Kerry paid only about 12% in 2004. They are also in a position to make sure that they will never have to worry about paying them either.
    I respect your position on Iraq as a good thing as I also believe it to be. the problems in Iraq began when we decided to have a politically correct response to an evil enemy. The militarys response to our enemies in Iraq. i.e. former Saddamists, Al Queda, Iran has always been one of victory. But we have a media savvy enemy and willing accomplices in the press that prevents the Military from waging the kind of war that needs waging. I always feel that fear works great if they don't want to respect your good intentions.
    You have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

  33. Sean Says:

    Roger,

    You refer to my comments as democratic talking points. Yet you offer no substansive reponse. As though the nature of the specific points mentioned are a contrived political scheme to wrench power from conservatives.

    The nature of politics, and blogs for that matter, is to spar verbaly, to critisise and move on. To rejuvinate the blood of our democracy. Critisism and discussion, like competition in business, only makes our greater whole stronger.
    Your affiliation as a conservative seems to have blinded you to the fact that
    the policies of the current president have rendered great problems for this country.

    The dishonest methods of these people have cost our country dearly. They have exposed our weakness' to our enemies, cost us credibility
    among our allies and they have done whatever they can to render the constitution a quaint document to be gotten around. Not upheld.

    You may disagree but a great many people think otherwise.We are not uneducated koolaid drinkers worried about John Kerry's tax returns. Most of us gave Bush not one, but two chances to get it right.

    Right now it appears he got one chance to many.

    Please, Roger or anyone, point out areas of national policy where Bush has demonstated competance. Iraq, you can't talk about that. Social Security? Nothing happened. Tax policy? I say look at the deficet.

    Merry Christmas

  34. roger Says:

    sean
    It was right and just to have taken out Saddam Hussain. I know personally people who lived in Iraq. It was a brutal place, but he was a Liberal compared to his two whacko sons that would have replaced him.
    There is a misconception about deficits and surpluses during both Clinton and Bush. There has not been a surplus since Johnson was allowed to transfer Social Security funds into the General fund. It is all smoke and mirrors by politicians, both left and right so that they can spend money that they didn't have.
    As for Social Security, putting a Percentage in to a personal account is a better deal than trusting a politician to look out for your interests. Bush can't nor could ever solve the Social Security problem it is a Legislative branch problem that they refuse to resolve. If you solve the problem you don't have the issue
    Also keep this in mind, please, being a conservative does not mean that you have to be a Republican. It also does not mean that you have to agree 100% with what Bush does. However given the choices that would be offered by the other side, if they ever stated what those choices would be, would probably not be acceptable to me.
    I am an American, and proud to be one. I served my country in the military. I feel that we are best country in the world, that we are the the bright spot in a world where people are murdered every day. We should hold our heads high and not accept critizism from countries that do not have our dedication to freedom. And I am sure that you feel the same way,even tho we have different view points
    As for tax policy, It is not because we have tax cuts for anybody that is the problem, it is overspending. This is not Bush's fault, It is the fault of Congress. They control spending. Unless they get a handle on spending, no matter how much money the Government gets they will be a couple of bucks short.
    But please keep this in mind. The world is a dangerous place. There are people and countries that would love to see millions of Americans die and America perish. Overspending, Social Security, and all the rest will be meaningless if we fail. America would come to the rescue of any nation in such dire peril. Who will come to our rescue?
    Sean Have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

  35. Veronica Cora Says:

    I'm thankful that in the end, off of this debate )while entertaining( won't change what is going to happen.

    It's all been decided. The best you can be thankful for is the people in your life that truly care about you. Work, money, a new house and car will all vanish when you take your last breath, so in the end, what do they matter? They don't. Nothing. Relationships matter.

    Peace OUT
    Veronica
    http://www.veronicacora.com
    FLAMMING LEFT WING BITCH

  36. Bil Says:

    Interesting reading!! Just a couple of quick points.... The ACLU fights for everyones civil liberties except Christians AND gun owners. Consider if the
    'drive by media' reported about the doings during World War II the way they do now.... think about how the 100,000 casualties during the Normandy invasion would have been reported, or Iwo Jima or Guadalcanal. Given recent NY Times recent articles, 'loose lips' (loose lips sink ships) would have been required. Think... we would probably be speaking German today. Lastly, for those who think this economy is the worst in recent history, remember the Jimmy Carter years(interest on home loans was 15 - 18 %.... No Thank You!!

    Ok, I'm done. Merry Christmas to all and to all a GOOD NIGHT!

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