Christians do the same exact shit...it's just never publicized. The fact of the matter is that Christianity/Catholicsm has been responsible for millions of deaths throughtout the centuries so don't give me that right wing bullshit!

Really? When's the last time "Christians" beheaded children?

or strap on a bomb, blow up a bus?

are you a hot infidel?

strap on a bomb(palestine), blow up a bus(Iraq), raped women(Iraq), killed 1200 babies(Lebanon), killed 15000 innocent women and children(Afghanistan)

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palestine-this is the result of people fighting for their land, families and people after being taken over and having their homes destroyed and lost recognition.

iraq- well thats thanks to america, iraq wasnt exactly screwed like this

afghanistan- once again, look at this country's history (wars from russia and america at least. just because theyre muslim doesnt mean that whatever they do is what islam is telling them to do. really this is how people should be looking at worldwide situations, its really that simple. u dont come up with conclusions just like that without a closer look

just because it happend doesnt give anyone the right to continue it, all the bullshit is on there part, christianity did do horrible things but atleast they have learned there mistakes and this is fuckin sicc, crimes against nature and god. how could extremists think there going to a peaceful place when they have committed so much pain and anguish... in the end everything and everyone they hurt will get back at them. like the article said, war is war,... but genocide is something else, and i think even there beloved god knows this.....

i really agree with you. i wish there would one day be peace between the west and east, and in both areas...

:)

wow i really didnt beleive anyone on the internet actually had a mind that isnt currupted with sex, drugs and violence. you know your the first comment i got that wasnt trying to preach bullshit or propaganda, in the end everyone just wants peace, the only people who want these wars are the ones who benefit from them... well thnx you dont know it but your comment meant allot to me. i really thought that i was the only one left with peace in my mind.... thnx and peace homie....

Oh come on...Can't you see how stupid you are for writing this article. I mean, I'm embarrassed to write this comment under your article because I'm afraid I may be talking to a child.

You take a handful of stories and condemn billions. You are blaming a religion because of the stupidity of a minority who seem to garner the news headlines (which you obviously are feeding off of.)


Seriously. There are so many stories like these that can be accumulated of any group, religion, etc. You do realize that by writing such an article you are feeding into the anger and hate, instead of trying to bring people together. It comes off as trying to induce a sense of hate towards other Muslims.

What about Muslims that condemn these actions or regular Muslims who are just trying to adapt to the already hate-filled climate in this day and age who now have to deal with more ignorant people that read this and think that "all" Muslims are like this?

Ironically, you come off as a bad person yourself when you try and paint a whole group of people by handful of events.

Do the right thing...write some positive articles.

Need help? Well let me provide some examples:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/12/subway.attack/...

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSMC...

http://www.al.com/huntsvilletimes/stories/index...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/06/us/06religion...

http://www.chicagosfoodbank.org/site/PageServer...


See how easy that was. It didn't take me much effort to accomplish the exact opposite of what your article is set to do.

What? Where have you heard about Christians doing these things in the name of their religion in the past 20 years? Or Jews? Or Mormons? Or Buddhists? Or people of a number of other religions?

ComeOnMAN, I'm sorry, but your post sounds childish. This stuff is happening in extreme Islamic cultures. You won't make it go away with fluffy-bunny articles to counteract it. Heck, for all of these images Urban has shared, I could probably pull up a dozen more, depicting atrocities committed by Muslim extremists, most of them against women. Why are you afraid to bring it up and discuss it? Are you afraid of insulting Muslims? Because there are some good ones out there who despise what's happening in their culture as much as I do.

Mr. Cums on Men really missed the whole premise of this article. THERE ARE TONS OF GOOD STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE OF ALL RELIGIONS WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE GREATER GOOD.... But usually that only happens in the United States, where it won't leave you covered in welts, or without a head.

The point of this piece was to say, "Hey- our military is over in these countries because of how disgusting the treatment of humans is when at the hands of violent extremists, yet you go on about how horrible it is here when people read the Bible and apply its messages to daily life... and even politics."

The Muslim extremists are out of their fucking minds, even though I'm not the biggest fan of certain aspects of Christianity, I can still appreciate that when they disagree with something they don't bust out a machete to solve the problem. They pray. I mean, maybe they'll push for a bill to stop abortion, but that's a measure to prevent murder.

Whatever man- I have never seen a picture of someone being lashed, and it reinforces my beliefs in making changes over there for the majority who live in fear of these freaks. Christians can be kinda weird- I definitely know that- but when it comes down to it they have huge hearts and will accept anyone. And look what happens--- persecuted all the time for simple things like "I want to pray wherever I feel like it. I want to walk down the street and not have my fucking HEAD REMOVED."

@ComeOnMAN

"The point of this post is not to condemn Islam because I do know several Muslims who condemn this extreme and radical behavior."

"Extreme Islam: A platform for injustice, abuse and murder"

You obviously didn't read the entire article nor did you understand the title of the post - EXTREME ISLAM.

You can go ahead and try to belittle me with your “child” comments; but that doesn’t discount the fact that EXTREME ISLAM is a problem and if you can’t see that, you are blinded by the luxurious of living here in the US.

Anyone can go to a search engine and find positive articles about anything. Shoot, I am sure you can find something positive about murder, rape and child porn if you look hard enough. If you want to read positive articles, make your way to the newsstand and pick up the latest copy of Readers Digest.

@ Valeriepublican

CLASSIC!!!

The person who commented second: YOU DIDN'T READ THE ARTICLE. READ AGAIN! As for the actual article, good job...well written.

*Rape = adulterous affair?*

Nope, but sitting in a car with some guy ur meeting up with to get a photograph of the two of you together is apparently. The rape was commited by 3rd parties. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7147632.stm

The US administrations opinion on her judgement - "astonishing", according to the BBC. Sounds more like a reaction to a card trick than what this girl would have had to have gone through. Thankfully the King pardoned her.

Sean - yes, you are right. This story was released today; and yes, thankfully she was pardoned.

Thanks for the link!

ComeOnMAN obviously wasn't interested in reading the article and discussing the facts. UC obviously laid the foundation that this article was about Extremism and not your everyday Muslim. THAT was made clear.

It's no wonder why so many people can't wake up to the danger that is Extremism, of ANY religion. Unfortunately for Islam, many fundamentalist Muslims have taken a lead role in participating in violent activities in the name of their religion.

More and more we should be realizing that these incidents are no longer isolated to the Middle East. The poor girl who was murdered by her father for not wearing the hijab happened a suburb of where I live, Toronto, CANADA.

Shey - thanks for the comment. It's typical that many of the people that comment on this blog and don't read the entire article.

Have a great week!

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Hmm...

"THERE ARE TONS OF GOOD STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE OF ALL RELIGIONS WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE GREATER GOOD....But usually that only happens in the United States"

Speaking from Britain...please tell me some of these 'good stories' - it would be interesting to hear a few tales of American multicultural spirit - It's quite hard for the rest of the world to picture the Evangelists, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and Muslims of America holding hands and laughing together, as they spoon soup in to bowls for the homeless and perhaps braid eachother's hair...if that is indeed the type of scenario you refer to when you speak of 'working together for the greater good' (A phrase quite popular in fascist rhetoric also.)


"Whatever man- I have never seen a picture of someone being lashed, and it reinforces my beliefs in making changes over there for the majority who live in fear of these freaks."

Yes, I applaud Urban Conservative's use of shocking pictures to 'reinforce' your 'beliefs in making changes' - it's a technique often used on young children to shock them into taking your side of an argument. Of course, it could also be interpreted as meaningless propaganda - i.e. 'here are some horrible pictures I have found, through my extensive research on google images, which I can use to back-up my claim that the entire islamic faith is evil and extremist and should therefore be irradicated by America as we are the sole keepers of truth and justice afterall...'

..Which brings me to:

"The point of this post is not to condemn Islam because I do know several Muslims who condemn this extreme and radical behavior. I am trying to make a point that what you see on this blog (and other’s like mine) is not extreme at all…In fact, you have no idea what EXTREME really is!"

This is quite an ambigous comment - it appears to be both an obligatory disclaimer that "Of course, I don't think ALL muslims are extremist..." (which I assume is mainly there to assert that you, yourself, are not extremist for some of your firmly right-wing views - an accusation that you've obviously lost some sleep over.) yet it also seems to suggest that the beheadings and whippings you've depicted do not do justice to the extent of EXTREMISM we have to fear from Islam...it's just too EXTREME for us to handle...
wow...you are truly an oracle of wisdom.

Browsing your website has prooved mildly entertaining. We definately have an extensive catalogue of stupidity in England, but it is nothing compared to the extent of dogmatic, uninfromed, bigoted verbal diarrhea involved in American politics.

Thank you.

all muslims are potential terrorists and of dubouis citizenship with no loyalty to our countrys government why does our government not do what roosevelt did with the japanese in world war 2 put them in interment camps surrounded by armed guardsin the middle of nowhere im speaking as a patriot fellow americans rise up and fight the enemy for he is among us do it before its too late

the local muslim community the persons that live in it in the city i live in the people are rude to non muslims they block our city sidewalks when i ask them to move they get verbally abusive they even tried to assault me they plug the parking meters down town where they have their masque and you tell me i should or we should be nice to them you got to be kidding they should go back to where they came from as they say not in my backyard or nimby wise up america before its to late

im not chicken to put down or say anything bad about islam or the people that pratice the islam faith after all they kill in the name of their religion in discriminately soldiers and civilans alike they that pratice war that way are nothing but cowards once again all muslims big and small are potential terrorsts and should be treated as such

there is no such thing as :EXTREME ISLAM".

David Otte,

I hope you are honestly on here just to stir something up because if you actually mean what you are saying then you are one step below an Islamic extremist who cuts other people's heads off for being Christian.

§

I am a Canadian raised convert to Islam and I had my parents try to throw these kind of news reports in my face.
First and foremost, whether its Extreme Islam or whatever, religion is unique to each person. One cannot force beliefs onto another, and this is ALL I see going on here from this article and the comments. So anyone who thinks your religion is "better", you're wrong, because it is innate, it is spiritual, it is something that only that one person can feel. So stop.
Second of all, follow the media in North America closely (particularily USA). Whenever something bad happens, it is either targeted as a black, a Muslim, or the news won't even make headlines. White people, Jews, Christians, you are all innocent, you couldn't possibly do anything wrong (this is what is protrayed in the media anyway). If some white Christian committed murder, they won't make headlines "Christian man murders". It will simply be "Murder case". But the minute its a Muslim or a coloured person, the media goes crazy to emphasize that. This is why your heads are SO warped. It isn't fair to any of us.
I was raised Christian, and I know that 99.9% of people aren't visibly Christian. So how can these "Muslim" people chop of girls heads because they were Christian? Were they wearing a logo? I know this is a really sad story, but think about it. When someone sees you walking down the street, do they know you're Christian, Jewish, Buddhist or whatnot? NO. But of course, this sick murder was committed, and yet again, targeted towards "bad Muslims" yet again. Maybe the girls weren't so innocent either. Don't be so quick to judge. There are always three sides to the story, one person, the other, and the truth.
In regards to the lashings of the Saudi girl, I do NOT agree with that, however, some laws are extreme and seeing that I learned a lot about Islam from Saudi women, what made media was obsurd. They are treated like porcelin dolls, who are catered to hand and foot, who shouldn't be handled by anyone but their loved ones, because they are seen as delicate jewels. Americans complain Saudi women aren't allowed to drive. Well did people forget to notice that they don't drive because if you are a woman in Saudi Arabia..you have a chauffeur? True fact. So when they hear that a woman was with a bunch of unknown men, that means 1) she left her house without telling anyone where she was going 2) she put herself willingly in a dangerous situation and 3) some sick jerks stole her virginity, but SHE was the one that put herself there...it was her own stupid choice to go. HOWEVER, the story that originally came up was INVALID, thats why when the story was presented as the truth, it was pardoned. It was not her fault. She was not "asking for it".
I could argue all day here, but that isn't the answer. The answer is DON'T BE SO QUICK TO BELIEVE THE MEDIA. I know my fiance was raised in the middle east and the way they see us is incredibly sad...they think white people are provocative. But, we must remember the world is seen through two different eyes when it comes to Christianity and Islam. Take a woman who wears the veil (hijab) - she sees this as her freedom from judgement, her freedom from people speaking to her breasts rather than listening to what she's saying, its her freedom from a guy checking out her butt. Take a modern American woman, she sees freedom by being able to paint her face in makeup, wear lots of provocative perfume, and wear low cut shirts. Her freedom is to be able to have people judge her, and to have guys think about her boobs rather than look into her eyes. This is a small example, but a huge highlight of the difference from one religion to the next.
There is extreme on both sides, however, often times, it is exaggerated. Bush will say whatever he wants to have America on his side so he can keep bombing Middle Eastern countries to take oil. Its a money market, and you're all brain washed. Sit down with a Muslim, I am sure you'll change your mind. Speak to me if you would like. I lived both lives. I know the difference.

ConverttoIslam, I'll agree that religion is unique to the person, but as I understand it, Islam is the only religion who's core written tenets espouse murder as a means to salvation -- as proof of your loyalty to Allah. Moreover, it is the only religion who's followers actually live that way today. You can say all you want that not all Muslims are like that -- that the evil ones are perhaps even the minority, but it doesn't change the fact that the literature upon which it is based commands in no uncertain terms that its followers will be punished -- severely -- if they don't make every effort to have a religious hegemony. They'll allow other religions, but only after they pay taxes from a position of subjugation.

So UC, I don't agree that this behavior is from religious extremists. The extremists are the ones that aren't living under the religion's core tenets; the peaceful ones that are coexisting with we Christians and Taoists 'n' Buddhists 'n' Shintoists.

So yeah...flame away. I look forward to hearing how I'm a brainless fearmonger.

"One cannot force beliefs onto another, and this is ALL I see going on here from this article and the comments. So anyone who thinks your religion is "better", you're wrong, because it is innate, it is spiritual, it is something that only that one person can feel. "

With all due respect Converttoislam. The stories above illustrate Muslims trying to force their beliefs on to others. And, please don't get me wrong extreme Christians in the form of White Supremecists, KKK etc. are just as bad.

You DON'T know anything about ISLAM or its teachings enough to post something like this.

Seriously, Go do your homework.

In all respects, you seem civilized enough to have the desire to learn more.

Take a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQnfOWhuras

May God Guide you to the Truth.

i don't know what to say about your article. do you think this is gonna make things better??????????
lets be frank, don't you know about tens of incidents happening around you, every day?  i am afraid you gonna say only niggers do that.

can you tell me why America trashed Iraq, bcz it had nuclear weapons?... give me a break man. Thousands of innocents died and are dieing. should i name that Extreme Christianity? what about Vietnam hundreds of thousands died. what do you call that?????
if you want i can send you 100s of pics with men women, children old young blown into pieces with American bombing.

Islam is being blamed for terrorism, let me ask you do you know where did Usama Bin Ladin come from? if you don't know i will help.
he was the No: 1 agent of america operating in afghanistan to destablize russian army. he was trained and was bieng funded by ur beloved country. if you are shocked and can't believe ask your dad.

and please if you are a good christian post articles to bring people together not crap.

you fool. gangster did they crimes not for christian's sake.
but muslim did they crimes for islam sake.

if you look at islamic punishment you will see it has distinct characteristics (e.g., lashing, be-heading, raping virgins before they are executed so that they do not die a virgin etc), you see and hear about these so called  'fanatic' muslims perform these vicious acts universally i.e. arab/islamic countries. therefore there must be something that they have in common - islam, islam has a manual - koran. this is not a riddle to try and figure out, but simple common sense. that is, there must be truth in that islamic law states some acts to be punishable by certain methods (or else why are they performed identically in only islamic states, and why in the name of islam?), whether it be be-heading, stoning to death or other inhumane or sadistic methods. when these islamic punishments are executed, muslims are quick to answer with 'they are fanatics, majority of muslims condemn that behavior...' the answer to this is - why the commonality in method? they the 'fanatics' must have acquired their methods from somewhere, did they not? they all say in the name of islam, do they not? People there is no such thing as a 'extremist' or 'fanatic' muslim...but simply muslims that actually portray elements of islam as you see through the images above - these muslims are marked as 'extremists'. this is the side of islam that is attempted to be hidden, however much inhumane as it is, it is one prominent aspect of islam. an aspect that the world now knows about, and aspect that brings muslims to shame, they should only be ashamed when they try to deny it.

ppl hu do this kind of shit ...arent muslim ppl hu bomb themselves arent muslim...cause in the Q'uran does it say go and kill your self and inncent ppl...er na !

my sister lost her husband and 3 childern in the 9/11.

ALL Muslims are animals. The Islam Religion is Bullshit, Mohammad was a Bull Frog, remember.

As a Muslimah I dont understand this kind of violance and hatered. For me, I found nothing to condone this in Quran, I read it as a peacefull, tollerant loving faith. But I guess religion makes you more of who you are and I am a hippy.
Christians, Jews, muslims, We are all praying to the Same Allah and I pray Allah grants these people the eyes to see there wrongs and the hearts to set this right.

Amber

this is a different amber to the one posted above. This is indeed the ugly side of religious fundamentalism,  but we in the west have had it as well. . I find this typical,  we say, oh look over there at what they are doing, while our own house is a pig sty. For an example of this type of hypocracy  will quote our host's  recent comment    " the mississippi white knights now there is something we Americans can be proud of"- urban conservative

For an example of this type of hypocracy  will quote our host's  recent comment    " the mississippi white knights now there is something we Americans can be proud of"- urban conservative

How is that hyproctical. I hate the white nights too.

i didn't write that first post. this has happened once before my name came up with a post saying i am a slut or something to that effect. if you are getting info that that first amber post came from the same post as amber2, then your info is wrong, or maybe i have a security concern.

Can AMBER possibly embarrass "himself" further?

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hello.
im a iranian & muslim.
i dont speak english good.
please see this film:

http://www.ngoic.com/index.php?language=En

hoboboh your the jackass that believes in the  rebublican party, as for the post i didn't write it.

UC again i refer to the comment you made ."The mississippi white knights, now there something we Americans can be proud of."  You say you hate the KKK, explain the comment.

Amber,
You got called out on it, be a man and face it. 

UC punked you!  Or maybe U punked urself.  same e-mail, lol.

As for the Republican party comment, you're* (that's the correct way amber) so smart.  However, in this case you are incorrect, I am not a Republican at all.   You're* so smart.

Mohammad I will watch your video, why not.

out.

Again, I didn't post that comment, I don't particularly have a problem with any thing the comment says unless it is somehow attached to my identity.  i am also spiritually  unaffiliated muslim.

perce non prendeto il belo del islama e no queste foto maledete ce avete meso

TOM

if you look at islamic punishment you will see it has distinct characteristics (e.g., lashing, be-heading, raping virgins before they are executed so that they do not die a virgin etc),

WOAH WOAH WOAH, raping virgins? whhhhhhhhhhhheere in the world are u getting ur information? im a muslim, whose studied islam for my entire life, and ive NEVER in my life heard or read anything that encourages such an attrocity. Get ur facts right before u "educate" people about islam alright? Rape is a crime in Islam whenever wherever, so dont sit there and tell people that Islam encourages rape. That's 100 percent ficticious, and something tells me u enjoy pulling crap just to piss people off, like honestly if ur going to insult someones religion, please do it wisely without feeling the need to make things up.

TO Don Juan
"ALL Muslims are animals. The Islam Religion is Bullshit, Mohammad was a Bull Frog, remember"

mr. Don juan it's your kind of people that well not let peace came between any religion.....who gives you the rite to call all muslims animals and call our religion bullshit and dont you even dare say anything about our prophet Muhammad(pbuh).....i dont thing Urban Conservative posted this site for muslim haters to post this kind of  f***in comments....get your fucked up head out of hating muslims and try to bring some peace to this world and to yourself....and im  telling you rite now as long as we have ppl like you in this world there well never be peace....MAN SOME PPL NEED TO GROW UP.......not all muslims are bad the one who are which is the minority are the ones who make the headlines its so obvious how else are they gonna make money.....you know wat im not gonna waste my time and try to make the un-educated ppl understand its just gonna be  waste of words.....
EVERYONE TRY TO MAKE PEACE WITH EACH OTHER YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE TO LIVE SO WHY NOT MAKE THE BEST OF IT....

PEACE OUT
from A CANADIAN MUSLIM

To denote any religion; is wrong.  to post images, without intelletcual and reasonable inferences is stupidy.  and to claim all members of any religion are a given identity; is simply known as ignorance.  All human beings ; whether muslim, christian; jewish; or any other religion need to co-exist through understanding and patience.  If we lack that, then we lack the trait of humanity.  To Hate on Christians, and behead them because of their religion shows again the lack of education. and To Hate Muslims based on radical islamists also shows a lack of education.  Over generalizing any form of population over any theme of "labeling" is pre mature dissection, and we need to be more mature when discussing matters at hand. Especially that involve God.  There is One God, the exalted; and whether you are a Muslim, Christian, Jew, or an animal, you need to realize that simple FACT: there is only ONE GOD.

If you cannot show patience of respect for your fellow human being, then perhaps you are less than that--a human being. and i pray for you, that you be educated. I pray that we all be educated, I pray that we become more knowledgable on issue as we argue our view points, and that we show respect to God above.  Because on the day the scrolls are laid out, Im sure we will all be able use a little extra help.

I hope that all of you understand each other better.  And if you are here to start fire, and point fingers; then perhaps you should keep your elementary intelligence to your selves.

God Bless.

What went around has come around. These incidents (if the allegations a correct) are a result of the injustice being meted out by the American and coalition governments. Hate,aggression and violence are a subsequent result of the non heeding western human rights associations. Muslims who are misguided will react violently in their personal capacties. It is by no means a reflection on the beautiful way of life of Islam. It is unsafe to generalise on the pictures shown above. Some of the captions dont even acknowledge the harshness of the crime itself or what crime it was that was committed. If only pictures could be taken of the criminals during their crimes it will balance the scales of emotionalism a bit. But are there photographers brave enough to do such a thing. Sensationalism is what this and other like minded articles are about.

Where I live, ten years ago they would not even listen to the call for the death penalty. today, when the same people are being affected, they are clamouring for it. I think that if the author of this article takes a trip away from his/her comfort zone, will their minds reopen to realities around the world.

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i am an irish born convert muslim and this article should be taken completely and utterly down from the web no trace of this article shud ever be seen again how do you know that man who was whipped 90 times didnt assault a woman or try to rape a child i personally feel if he committed those crimes then 90 whips is not enough. and i am not going to even justify some of the blatantly rascist and 'american dream' comments on this page i sat with an american who told me to my face 'well america, if we want something that your country has, and you wont give it to us, well, were gonna come into your country and take it!' or when another american told me through e-mail 'no the iraq war doesnt matter, i still have my house and my kids still go to school it doesnt matter to the rest of the world' and when put with the question 'how many people died in 9/11?' i got the reply 'i dont know maybe 10,000.' and so by your standards and this websites standards i can judge that every single american is a half brained , moronic inbred who dont even know there own history. but guess what? i dont feel that way because my religion ISLAM teaches me that to belittle anyone and to put anyone down over a whim and with out full proof is a sin and is punishable. this is not a portrayal of islam or any of islams teachings im so sick and tired of people abusing my religion and basing their half knowledge on what my religion teaches and the basis of my religion i plead with you to please take this down do the world a favour.

go suck allahs dick, how foolish of you to come to a CONSERVATIVE blog, and whine and complain about things here. I think the inbred half brain here is you.

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At Eoin: You obviously are just as ignorant of history as those "moronic" Americans. And, is it kind of stupid that you who claim to be "so peaceful" and "tolerant" can't be tolerant of other people's views???? No, you can't and you know why? Because you are intolerant and ignorant. Also, if America is such an evil country, why do so many people immigrate there? Huh? And i guess since you live in socials UK, you don't believe in freedom of speech....ok, i guess you believe in freedom of speech for those who agree with you. And, your whole stance against this blogger is illogical and contradictory and idiotic!!! You look at two examples of americans...TWO...and then you turn around and rashly generalize all americans and call them all stupid idiots!! And then you get upset at this blogger for condemning a religion which authorizes violence and brutality....idiocy.
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“Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way.” (9:5) “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his Prophet and strive to make mischief in the land and is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world…” (5:33) The Koran, unambiguously agreeing with the actions of Islamic radicals, firmly shows that the true Islamic detractor is the peaceful Muslim. Advocates of Islam attempt to refute this militancy by saying that we have taken these verses out of historical and cultural context and try to convince us of the purported “peaceful” teachings of the Koran. Like Karen Armstrong, a columnist for the Times, they inaccurately argue that since Muhammad lived in a violent culture, the so-called violence of the Koran merely shared in the common sentiments of the day. (Armstrong) Philosopher and thinker George Grant describes this apology as “fraught with false assumptions.” A peaceful commercial hub of North Africa, Mecca, at the time of Muhammad had not participated in wars for many years. Violence was finally spawned when Muhammed made clear his pitiless plan for purifying Mecca of the Kafir, the infidel. (Grant)
In conclusion, Eoin, maybe you want to reconsider your faith...what it really teaches, before belittling others for pointing out the evil that it authorizes.
 
And at Ash: The American forces in the Middle East are not meeting out these punishments, nor are they forcing Muslims to meet them out. Muslims institute them when they institute Shariah Law, which is based partially upon the Koran. And if your consider a picture of a girl's headless body with her head sitting next to it is not descriptive enough....well, i don't know what to say about someone who thinks like you. You are the one who needs to open your mind to the reality around you. Look at the past several years and see all the evil and violence Islam has caused.

 
 
 
 
Armstrong, Karen. "The True, Peaceful Face Of Islam." 1 Oct. 2001. Islam for Today. 18 Nov. 2008 <http://www.islamfortoday.com/armstrong01.htm>.
Grant, George. The Blood of the Moon : Understanding the Historic Struggle Between Islam and Western Civilization. Carlisle: STL, 2002. 40-45.

At Eoin: You obviously are just as ignorant of history as those "moronic" Americans. And, is it kind of stupid that you who claim to be "so peaceful" and "tolerant" can't be tolerant of other people's views???? No, you can't and you know why? Because you are intolerant and ignorant. Also, if America is such an evil country, why do so many people immigrate there? Huh? And i guess since you live in socials UK, you don't believe in freedom of speech....ok, i guess you believe in freedom of speech for those who agree with you. And, your whole stance against this blogger is illogical and contradictory and idiotic!!! You look at two examples of americans...TWO...and then you turn around and rashly generalize all americans and call them all stupid idiots!! And then you get upset at this blogger for condemning a religion which authorizes violence and brutality....idiocy.
In addition, while accusing Americans of ignorance, you yourself are ignorant of what your own religion stands for. Look what the Koran teaches:<!--[if gte mso 9]> Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]> <![endif]-->
“Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way.” (9:5) “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his Prophet and strive to make mischief in the land and is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world…” (5:33) The Koran, unambiguously agreeing with the actions of Islamic radicals, firmly shows that the true Islamic detractor is the peaceful Muslim. Advocates of Islam attempt to refute this militancy by saying that we have taken these verses out of historical and cultural context and try to convince us of the purported “peaceful” teachings of the Koran. Like Karen Armstrong, a columnist for the Times, they inaccurately argue that since Muhammad lived in a violent culture, the so-called violence of the Koran merely shared in the common sentiments of the day. (Armstrong) Philosopher and thinker George Grant describes this apology as “fraught with false assumptions.” A peaceful commercial hub of North Africa, Mecca, at the time of Muhammad had not participated in wars for many years. Violence was finally spawned when Muhammed made clear his pitiless plan for purifying Mecca of the Kafir, the infidel. (Grant)
In conclusion, Eoin, maybe you want to reconsider your faith...what it really teaches, before belittling others for pointing out the evil that it authorizes.

And at Ash: The American forces in the Middle East are not meeting out these punishments, nor are they forcing Muslims to meet them out. Muslims institute them when they institute Shariah Law, which is based partially upon the Koran. And if your consider a picture of a girl's headless body with her head sitting next to it is not descriptive enough....well, i don't know what to say about someone who thinks like you. You are the one who needs to open your mind to the reality around you. Look at the past several years and see all the evil and violence Islam has caused.




Armstrong, Karen. "The True, Peaceful Face Of Islam." 1 Oct. 2001. Islam for Today. 18 Nov. 2008 <http://www.islamfortoday.com/armstrong01.htm>.
Grant, George. The Blood of the Moon : Understanding the Historic Struggle Between Islam and Western Civilization. Carlisle: STL, 2002. 40-45.

FIRST OF ALL you can't make judgements that state ISLAM as being EXTREME
as most muslims don't hurt people, just like most chirstians are nice but some do bad stuff but people don't make a big deal of that.
SECOND OF ALL I could publish MANY things saying EXTREME Chrsitianity with MANY examples or murders,rape, violence but I would never do that as I know many Christian people are innocent AND i know MUCH better then degrading other religions.
OH BY THE WAY, I m Muslim and i would like to set an example to you showing Islam is not extreme as it is  RELIGION and has nothing to do with what these people of it. these examples are NOTHING compared to the vast amount of muslims in the world that ARE nice.
and Im 16 years old knowing MUCH more then you would have ever known before you psted this site up.

@ Samar Khan:

First, of you imply that we cannot judge a religion by the acts of its followers, and I completely agree. The 21st century followers of both Christianity and Islam do not decide the doctrine of a religion created centuries before their time. For you, Samar, the one who decided what your religion was going to be like was Allah's revelation to Muhammad and for me, the one who established my religion was Christ, and the ones who delineate it's beliefs are men who received divine revelation. No matter what I say about Christianity is not going to change what it actually is. So, if I live a life of violent crime and attempt to justify it with twisted principles from the Bible (as the KKK did), I would not be changing what Christianity is. Thus, the founding principles decide a religion and not the actions of the followers.

And so, I look to the book which is the foundation of your faith, in order to understand what your faith is about. And what I found in your book was disturbing: “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way.” (9:5) “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his Prophet and strive to make mischief in the land and is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world…” (5:33) I studied the surrounding verses to make sure I was not taking them out of context or misunderstanding them. The meaning of them is quite clear: Those who will not convert to Islam must be killed. I fully realize that all Muslims are not violent, hateful terrorists. However, when I look at the source of the Islamic faith, I am shocked to find that this terrorism is not only supported but mandated! But even though terrorists commit horrific acts of violence, I do not hate them but instead love them, for my faith is not based on violence as Islam unfortunately is, but upon love. Where Islam says "kill those who don't believe", Christianity says "love your enemy; do good to those who hate you."

Samar, I understand why you are defensive about your religion, for that is natural for people to defend what they believe in. But, choosing your religion, as your probably know, has eternal effects on what you do for the rest of eternity. I encourage you to re-examine your Islamic faith by comparing the truth claims of the Koran with those of the Christian Bible. If you have any questions, feel free to email me at logical.christian@yahoo.com.

Oh, Samar, and you might check out Ravi Zacharias' book "Jesus among other gods"

Peace be upon for those who follow the right path which is islam.

please, do not wast your time arguing with some ignorant and rubbish. they dont know any better that is the reason why they said a lot of stuff of islam.  the amazing thing is that Islam is the fastest growing religion now. 
if they weren't ignorant, before they said about islam, they would have read quran and the story of Our Beloved Prophet Mohammed (Peace and Blessing be upon Him)
So, leave them, they can say anything about islam, because know that they cannot destroy islam, but islam will light up every less than nanominit

Tthis is not an actual face of islam. You all must read Islam by reading the Quraan and the life of the Prophit Muhammad (Peace be upon him), it  is only religion for peace for all.

Ok, I'm reading the koran....

wow, check out these quotes:

[2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

[4.18] And repentance is not for those who go on doing evil deeds, until when death comes to one of them, he says: Surely now I repent; nor (for) those who die while they are unbelievers. These are they for whom We have prepared a painful chastisement.

[4.37] Those who are niggardly and bid people to be niggardly and hide what Allah has given them out of His grace; and We have prepared for the unbelievers a disgraceful chastisement.

[4.144] O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[25.52] So do not follow the unbelievers, and strive against them a mighty striving with it.

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors. [2.194] The Sacred month for the sacred month and all sacred things are (under the law of) retaliation; whoever then acts aggressively against you, inflict injury on him according to the injury he has inflicted on you and be careful (of your duty) to Allah and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).



So, i read you holy book, and this is what your holy book said: kill the infidel and force him to become a Muslim. If he doesn't convert, kill him. There is no way we can coexist when one religion demands the execution of the other.

I honestly could care less that your religion is the fastest growing, its also the most violent. I've read history, and Muhammad just made a religion out of desert paganism, Zorastrianism, and the Christian Heresies of Norastianism and Arianism. Its just a ridiculous mix of a bunch of other religions that is violent, anti-freedom, anti-humanity, and anti-civilization.

Hey you Muslims, maybe YOU guys are the one's who need to read your Koran...and not just let your beloved Imams and scholars tell you what it means.

Yeah, this is the actual face of Islam, Gulfraz, maybe you should read your holy book and learn what Mohammad actually did. :)

Killing children with the Muslim world peace is
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It is not the Pigeonhearted

holy (beep) im scard now to go out side my house im gona protest agrsnt the islams people if they are gonna kepp on doing that to the christains

HURRAH ! (Someone who was actually logical) you with Misknow from the Koran you are trying to mislead others do you have a question?

Why the verses of Koran about friendship with God's people and did not? science or that still half of them have been discovered?
All the books of the Bayán(the Bible and Torah. . . )The man guilty copies of the principle of them and burned copies of the false wrote but only the Koran is a book that God had been I Poland that he takes care of it.

and see Crime Israel and America with Muslims.
www.doomdeath2.blogfa.com
sure they are right with chemical bombs and kids Muslim women to kill it is not the Pigeonhearted

I created a website and a blog in the memory of Aqsa Parvez http://aqsaparvez.com. Her story ripped off my heart, as I have a daughter same age as her that I would give up my life for her.  If her father could not live with it (that his daughter did not obey him), why didn’t he end his own life instead of ending his young innocent beautiful daughter?  He is selfish, crazy psychopathic person. I'm not a good writer, but I just wanted to say that not because some Muslims out there are brain washed to hate and kill for some political reasons (not religion) means Islam is bad religion generates bad people.  I raised with Muslims half of my life (Egypt) that was over 20 years ago.  I am still in touch with my Muslim friends. They were very good, kind, and nice people.  These brain washed Muslims is another story.  They are like any other brain washed people whether it’s for religion, culture, cults, gangs or any other groups. They believe they are serving God by killing, terrorising and forcing others to convert to Islam and before the world end, everybody on earth will be Muslim.  I don’t think that God who created the whole universe needed his own little tiny creatures to do the job for him, he can do it himself if he wants to. God created beautiful world and give it to you to grow love and peace. We harvest what we plant.  God is love, love and hate don’t work together. It’s that simple!  This is all about power, the feeling of power!

Hi there,,,
I wrote different comments but i havnt seen any!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why?

Hi there,,,
I wrote different commnts. But I havn't seen any!!!!!!!!!!
Why??????

One question:
The website that you had given me so i did.
do you think
That Muslim children have been killed or are brave more Israeli soldiers and their American fired
Please Just enter your number
1  Israeli soldiers and their American
2 Muslim children have been killed

In my opinion: 2

Okay I do believe ANYTHING that is taken EXTREME is wrong.
But do NOT say this is just ISLAM, Have you seen these "christian" male soldiers in Iraq who rape and kill  young innocent iraqi females.
Why? oh because they are so weak at state, and because they are Muslims.
That SOUNDS EXTREME? hm i don't think so. how about THE KKK? They kill everyone and anyone who is not WHITE and CHRISTIAN. that sounds pretty extreme correct? well what do we have here? And yes they still Exsist?

There are EXTREME Christians, Jews, JUST NOTHING FROM THEM GOES PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE TARGET.

We are because of this Bastered osama Bin Laden.

I agree that ANYTHING EXTREME is wrong,but don't be here blogging writing EXTREME ISLAM, Its more like "Extreme Acts from Religions" NOT JUST ISLAM.


Thanks.

The difference between any other EXTREME and EXTREME ISLAM is that non of them went as far as the 9/11 plan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was beyond extreme.

THOSE ARE NOT MUSLIMS.ANYONE CAN SIMPLY SAY I AM A MUSLIM AND BLOW UP THEM SELVES OR PLACES TOO MAKE MUSLIMS LOOK LIKE TERRORISTS.

Peace be upon all of you.
If we go in extreme than we can remind all of you that Adolf Hitler was a christian and Musolini as well.,,,,,,,,,,,hm......... does that give us a right to say that all christians are ruthless self-loving murderers or extremists??? No,,,,,,,,,,,so i would like to say only one thing. Do not judge religion by his followers but by its teachings.
So as ISLAM translates to english means Peacefull submision to God.please feel free and pick up a copy of Quran and Hadis and check it for your self.
Peace and blessings of God be upon you

Adolf Hitler and Mussolini were never Christians, they may have been Catholics but not Christians, in the real sense of the word. Christians practice the Love of God & annihilating
6 million Jews is not a Christian thing. Jesus waged war against evil in many forms & was against religion in any form. If a religion forces you to convert or they will harm you, then that religion is not worth joining. Jesus freely gave his life upon His Father's request for every human being (Catholic, Mormon, Buddhist, Shinto and yes, even Muslim) that ever lived in this world & never forced anyone, I included; to become a Christian, I chose to become Christian because of the unconditional love Jesus showed me & I also hope & pray that every human being would see the light that Jesus brought to this world & put an end to all these Sinful practices that man brought upon his fellowman. Women (Muslim & non-Muslim) should be respected & loved for they are the forebearers of the offspring of the male species and let us put an end to all inhumane treatment to all women (Muslim & non- Muslim).

i agree with you:Alkhadr.Islsm
and thanx for your free judgment.

Im sure you live in America...where crime has littered the place.
I see it every single day... rape, murder, robbery..... please dont talk about other countries where things like this are not very common. 
If it happened in Muslim countries to Muslim people and they accept then why the f*** do you care? Its not like you really care about these people... you just want the Muslims to look bad. You just want Islam to look bad- Which is pretty sad consdering you made a website for it. SHIT like this happens all the TIME!!!! Why dont you make a website for all of world and their crimes?! Maybe then... it would seem more reasonable. But instead being the racist, jealous person you are... you try to make Islam look bad... and "extreme Muslims." It's not working buddy. Every religion has bad people. Every country, city, town, household, school, culture have bad people. I could go on and on..... DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? WHERE ARE THE WEBSITES FOR CHRISTIAN CRIMES? JEWISH CRIMES? HINDU CRIMES? OTHER RELIGION EXTREMISM? Why just ISlam? Look I dont agree with some of the stuff that has been going around lately but I'm not going to judge every person of one religion for something that one person of that religion committed. This website needs to come down... seriously because of the pointlessness of it and the ignorance that is seen in every one of your words! Why did i waste my time here...

hey someone who is actually logical.... your not f****** logical at all!
Read the rest of the holy Quran!
Did you know that the Bible is the most voilent book out of all the holy books of religion?..... After you child molesting terrorists changed it.
YOU ARE SUCH A BIG IDIOT AND I HOPE THE DAY COMES WHEN YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH OF A DONKEY YOU ACTUALLY RESEMBLE! =]

Islam is my way, since I become a Moslem, I am verry happy, because islam teach me a lot of rule in all OF my way from get up until sleep, TROUGH ISLAM I am really happy. for every body please learn more about Islam, DON"T TELL SOMETHING ABOUT ISLAM, before you learnt it.

@ur an idiot, ignorant blind person

I just really appreciate the kind and tolerant attitude of your post. It makes me believe all the more that Islam is really a peaceful loving Religion.

You are a typical liberal. You know nothing but you act like you do by smearing other people, making fun of them, and attacking them. You don't know who I am so you can't say I'm a child molesting terrorist....your illogical post shows a complete lack of any knowledge whatsoever.

I say that Islam is violent, and I quote the Koran...IN CONTEXT....

You say the Bible is the most violent, and you don't quote any of it, because you don't know what the bible says, you've never read it, and since you have a minuscule IQ, the only response you can make is a vague generalization which isn't backed up with any evidence whatsoever.

I do not expect you to respond logically or knowledgably because you are incapable of doing either. That said, i probably won't respond to any swearing-filled posts you put up.

Chaerul, I respect you in your faith and your devotion to your religion, much more than I respect the faith of him who called me an idiot for no reason. However, I have researched your religion, and read the Koran, and i base my view of Islam off of that. What I am telling about Islam, I have learned from the center of Islam itself: the Koran.

First off... the reason that it seems as though I have no knowledge whatsoever in my writing is beacuse I do not care to engulf my writing with research-backed responses. I am not going to research things from the internet or wherever and then post them up for your benefit. I know what I'm saying and it is true. FYI, I have read the Bible and yes I do know what it says. It is not appealing at all after the so called divine priests contaminated it with their "reasonable laws." And also, the reason I called you a child molesting terrorist is to show people who give names to other groups for no apparent reason, how stupid they sound. It is almost a slap back in the face.
You don't know who I am, so how are you going to say that I have a minuscule IQ? Hypocritical much?! And it is spelled Quran not kuran but whatever Mr. "I have read the kuran." So you say Islam is violent? Then you obviously did not read the entire Holy Quran. And also once again you have only quoted some parts of the Quran not all of it. So it really does not prove anything unless you quote the whole Quran then will it give meaning. Agh you know what the heck, let me show you some evidence that will support what I'm saying. You want to know what the bible says? “However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them--the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites--as the LORD your God has commanded you.” Exodus 17:16. Also, look how violent is this: evelation 19:11-21 proclaims, “I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great." Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.”
You can not just quote the holy Quran about violence when there are other holy books who have the same violence written in them. I did the same you did, I just gave a few revelations and stated the whole religion is violent. Ha!
Oh and by the way, I'm not a liberal. I do not take any side in any political stances. I'm probably way younger than you but that does not mean that I have not the knowledge or the maturity to talk abut something that I feel is stated wrong.  But okay whatever if I or anyone else can't bring you to into understanding or the right path, then you go your way and I go mine.

I tell you again, please learn more about Islam, for me your religion is for you, and my religion is for me

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This is from bible so judge for yourselves.

MASSACRE:
(a) "Now therefore KILL every male among the little
ones, and KILL every woman (female) that hath known man by lying (having sex) with him. "But keep ALIVE for yourselves all the GIRLS and all the women who are VIRGINS." NUMBERS 31:17-18"And the Jews salvaged for themselves 32,000 virgins, verse 35; see also verse 40.
(b) But of the cities
of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou (o Jews) shall save alive NOTHING that BREATHES. DEUTERONOMY 20:16
(c) 'And they (the Jews) UTTERLY DESTROYED all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep, and ASS,with the edge of the sword " JOSHUA 6:21 (Even donkeys were not spared)
(d) "He (Joshua) let NONE remain alive." Joshua 10:28

RAPE:
Brother rapes and commits incest with his sister— (a) Howbeit he (Amnon, one of the sons of David) would not hearken unto her this sister Tamar's voice: but, being stronger than she, forced (raped) her, and LAY (had sex) with her." 2 SAMUEL 13:14
(b) "So they spread Absalom (another of the sons of David) a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom WENT IN (had intercourse) unto his father's concubines (same as "wives",) in the sight of ISRAEL" 2 SAMUEL 16:22

SLAVERY;
Sanctioned by God— "ye, shall take them (the slaves) as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them (the slaves) for a possession, they shall be ,your BONDMEN (slaves) for ever . . . LEVITICUS 25:46

Who write this article does not know any thing about islam , he want to misrepresentation the islam.   You have to know that in Philippines the christians attack muslim village and kill them .  In fact they slew them without any clemency.  Please any one want to write or speak about islam he have to think before he do.

yes, that philippines is the fictional philippines that nobody's ever been to.. in the REAL philippines, it's the muslims who attack entire towns, remember IPIL? burned to the ground. by whom? google it.

Peace be upon you all
Hope that you will watch whats happening in Gaza and Irak is there muslims who are agresors or christians and jews..?

And bible quotations are speaking for them salves.

Peace and blessings of god be upon you all

Peace be upon all....

As I read the articles written above.... I don't think you are well aware of your religion (Christianity or others)....
Islam is the religion of peace as it comes from its name and we also do respect other religions whether they are right or wrong....
The world is like a jungle and you can find some good people and as well as some bad but because of those bad ones you can't blame the whole religion.... If so then, should I blame Christians for what they are doing or did in Bosnia, Iraq, Vietnam etc....
Do you have the percentage of murders, raps etc are daily done in USA? Of course NOT and you don't want to know that because it's your country and you don't want to hear something bad about it.... I never think that the whole religion is like this because my religion didn't teach me so.... I know if there are some wrong people but you will also find some good and well wishers....

My religion teaches us of brotherhood, love, peace.... About whom you are talking, I don't call them MUSLIM because a real Muslim can't kill anyone because it's prohibited in Islam and why should I believe those media???? What proof do you have that they didn't change the story against Muslims????

We can't find its solution in quarreling or misjudging each other. Don't make rapid decisions about anything, first try to acknowledge yourself and then start writing professional articles (not like now)....

Peace and blessings of god be upon you all

I'm so sick of how others try to portray ISLAM.
People are so ignorant and media only speaks of Muslims, who are the target.

Islam, if you LEARN ISLAM, NOT what some Hypocritical Muslims try to portray, you will seek guidance.

If we are really the terrorist's what the hell is the deal with the dam Israelis who killed over 300 and injured 600 Palestinians in their recent act of terrorism.

Yeah, and NO PROMISE LAND BS.

There was a 30 day mourning for 6 Jews who were killed.. WTF

and how about the poor 300 civilians?

And attacking young children and babies..

MY FRIEND. We are not the F*kn terrorists.

and YOU are another pathetic Ignorant As.s wipe that id love to wipe  my ass with.

You are obviously NOT LOGICAL, and just want to make the Muslims look bad.

Get a LIFE.

Thanks.

I am a christian, and i am offended to hear a christian to post such a thing.

I agree with "miri.." all the way.

I am a college student, and i attend a university that the majority are Muslims.

They probably are the friendliest, most traditional, kind people ive met.

These acts i agree are wrong, but its not islam that is making them do it.
each human has intentions, some are good some are bad like above.
But DO NOT try to throw this on the religion islam. does not matter if its EXTREME or not, it is not Islam that caused that.

I can say i a Muslim and go do terrible acts like such.

The religion has nothing to do with what some Hypocrite followers are doing.

THE TRUE followers are the most generous,caring, respectful people.


And no matter what media portrays, never judge a RELIGION by a group of bastards who say they are Muslims.



-a christian

The visitors of this site is that religion with conditions… knows himself with no
a lot about the Koran verses failure tyrants (and at the time was alive and after death) said that after the death God torture them and to hell.
But whether we should be in the world to allow them to give oppression?
We in the month properties that we are in the Imam Hussein (AS) with 72 people to 6000 people stopped and the last won (with the speeches of Zeinab Ali and Ali’s peace be upon him).
While Imam Hussein's son for 6 months for his throat water boy he was shot arrows cut off.
The fighting in the Koran that you read it means that as under tyranny: “Don’t go
Now they want Jews and Muslims in the Gaza Strip lumps or in Iraq invasion and by showing some emotional picture their people that they deceive. . .
Only the Muslims to attack is that the leaders of the country cruel knows that Muslims are powerful against oppression and they can stand up

as i know, (and i believe i m ture) kristians jews and muslims all are the follower of their respective prophet. all have book from god, nearly same believe for the life after death, god, angels, prophets stories also same in different language. where is the problem?
i expect answers from all who care..

America is supposed to be all about reigious tolerance; however, we are perhaps the most intolerent society.

this is all bull shit. these people might be punished because they might have done some thing but if Muslims r doing this than they will go to hell because Islam doesn't teach to behead people who are non muslims .slam gives permission to every human to live his life according to his wishes but he will go to helllllllllllllllllllll.

All religions suck!

These photos are based on some goals that you made it for destroy islam and muslims. 
Islam bring knowledge,undirty,trying & freindly when westerns didn't know took bath.
why don't bring photos from your crimes in Gazza,Afganistan,Gowantanamo,Iraq,palestain,Lebanon,Africa,vietnam and other butchery in oll over the world. you have to search Islam in Qoran not in persons that claim we are muslims.DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE ALWAYS DEFEATING WITH ISLAM WITH THESE PHOTOS. Did you researche about these persons in these photos that what they did ?

If a photo that crime website Muslims is the photo Israel's crimes in the Gaza Strip.
Warning: Very disturbing and graphic images below. Proceed with caution.
http://www.maannews.net/images/PhotoViewer/5976...
http://www.irinn.ir/Files/PhotoGallery/1/1905/8...
& ...
www.doomdeath2.blogfa.com
Other discussion please do not continue

shayan 86........
Thanx for a bit of context. Graphic representation of the reality of the the end result of ones convictions can certainly be a wake-up call.
http://www.maannews.net/images/PhotoViewer/5976...
Seeing a severed head laying on the ground in person a number of years ago was my wake-up call.  It was just an "accident"......another air strike gone wrong.

i want to say one thing , the father who's  killed his daughter  he is a killer and  Islam is innocent from him because Islam did not Say or refer to this  "you can kill your daughter If she didn't obey you in hejab "
this is the declared reason but not the true reason 
but about "mage of man of who was lashed 90 times, Extreme Islam" this image from palestine and this man lashed  cause  he cooperate with israeli army to kill palestin opposition by give them some informations about place of opposition leaders  he is  "traitorous"

wtf all you guys, this guy maybe is not just coondemning islam(he says so) but is maybe just tryong to errr, for lack of a better term, educate america, so all of you bullcrapping, shit fucks, just lay off, with your (in a sarcastic voise) oh ya chrstians do this to, yeah man chathlics wrape emo babies,(end sarcasm) just fucking layoff, maybe hes not a christian, maybe christians dont do this, just because he says one thing does NOT mean you have to jump ( how high?. LOL) and say the other thing, maybe he thinks that christians do this and yeah its wrong, but that putting christians, muslims, and jews all on the same blog might be a little cluttered, yeah so go fucking shityourselfs cunt suckers, and just lay off, if your not going to say something good or prove a point, and your just being contradictory, well no one fucking likes it so fuck off
! namely the bullshit mother fuckers who say this guy is condemning muslims because he said I AM NOT CONDEMNING MUSLIMS, and underlined it

also, idk if he is a she so instead of he/she i just said he ( sorry if you  are a girl)

"ISLAM IS THE COMPLETE CODE OF LIFE" & NAVER THINK -TIVE ONLY UPON IMAGES.
                      THANX

Would you please let us know what r u doing in FALASTIN (GHAZA) with little child. how much peoples kill by Christin and catholic.

Kashir.....
<<(..................how many) peoples kill by Christin and catholic.>>
-That's part of the reason i reject Christianity.  Many Americans and other Christians would do well to understand the role of "faith" and genocide.

I believe the justice system in Islam is completely corrupted by intolernt male bastards who condemn women to harsh punishments as means of feeling control and power. Their laws need to be completely revamped for any justice to occur what so ever. I'm not saying all Muslims are bad because of the acts of a few, but everyone, despite their preferences, gender, race etc... should all be treated equally and in many parts of the world, this is not happening.  Every system is corrupt, and people from every religion do horrific things, so I'm not exempting every religion but one.
Whatever happened to compassion for humanity and the need to sustain the precious gift of life? It's horrible what some do these days - sickening!

That is disgusting

and you are such Great Christians for Judging people... i wish i could one day follow the bible as well as you

shame on you. you can not blame some people actions on all religion. there are all type of people either good or bad in all communities and religions. the justice system in Islam is great. all people have equivalent rights in Islam. my advice for you is that just study the Islam and understand the Islam then write on Islam. i think nobody should write on any religion without deep knowledge.

yes i agree with the writer who express and expose this type of things that are happening in these third world country. There are lots of extreme group in every religion. I can only speak for my religion Islam. The prophet Mohammad pbbh has mention that there will be 71 sect with the Jews, 72 with the Christian and 73 with the Muslim. Meaning these are group of people with in  each of the religion that he mention will be divided all will go into the hell firer except for 1 sect of each of these religion.  The one that in Islam is the one that follow the prophet Mohammad pbbh.  will enter Paradise and the rest will go to hell.  So you see you cannot expose only one religion because through out history extremese existed in all.

Islam is violent and it started with its founder.  He waged war with all those around him and the Koran reflects his violent mutterings, especially after those around him didn't follow his crazy teachings.

Almost all wars in the world at this time involve followers of Islam. 

We really need more Muslims in this country- if we want to be like a frog in a slowly heating pan of water.

Mr Charles The Hammer 732
Find me any vers in Quran that speaks like this and if you think deaply its not islam that is promoting violants but your bible

This is from bible so judge for yourselves.

MASSACRE:
(a) "Now therefore KILL every male among the little
ones, and KILL every woman (female) that hath known man by lying (having sex) with him. "But keep ALIVE for yourselves all the GIRLS and all the women who are VIRGINS." NUMBERS 31:17-18"And the Jews salvaged for themselves 32,000 virgins, verse 35; see also verse 40.
(b) But of the cities
of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou (o Jews) shall save alive NOTHING that BREATHES. DEUTERONOMY 20:16
(c) 'And they (the Jews) UTTERLY DESTROYED all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep, and ASS,with the edge of the sword " JOSHUA 6:21 (Even donkeys were not spared)
(d) "He (Joshua) let NONE remain alive." Joshua 10:28
RAPE:
Brother rapes and commits incest with his sister— (a) Howbeit he (Amnon, one of the sons of David) would not hearken unto her this sister Tamar's voice: but, being stronger than she, forced (raped) her, and LAY (had sex) with her." 2 SAMUEL 13:14
(b) "So they spread Absalom (another of the sons of David) a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom WENT IN (had intercourse) unto his father's concubines (same as "wives",) in the sight of ISRAEL" 2 SAMUEL 16:22
SLAVERY;
Sanctioned by God— "ye, shall take them (the slaves) as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them (the slaves) for a possession, they shall be ,your BONDMEN (slaves) for ever . . . LEVITICUS 25:46

Truthfull.....
You're right, the Bible is full of "smiting".....(don't forget about Lot' daughters gettin' him drunk 7 screwin' him! -Genesus19:31-38)
But there are some good things in the bible, like SOCIALISM.....
"All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his own possessions was his own, but they shared EVERYTHING they had."
-Acts 4:32
Yeah, if all those Christians would just read their bible....

Of course the difference being that the Bible's obvious taste for blood is not put into practice by its followers in the present tense.  Not to say that several hierarchies of the established christian church organizations don't have blood on their hands as well.

However, the Bible stories are merely words just like the Qaran.  Until those words are pressed into ACTION (see pics above) they are symbols, nothing more.  It is the putting WORDS to ACTION department that Islam falls off the rails of modern decency.  Why we had a beheading just last week in Massachusetts....you know...to restore the husbands honor.

Like I said....words into action.

<<Of course the difference being that the Bible's obvious taste for blood is not put into practice by its followers in the present tense.>>
-Except that we use stories like "Extreme Islam....."  to prepare our collective taste for blood. 
When we order a predator air strike that kills women&children (....oops!)
-No problem!  Because they were Muslims anyway, so that's OK.

Dave, as usual you are inarticulate in your responses.  Surely you did not intend to write that the United States sends predator drones to kill women and children, or have you been at the kool aid again.

Any response from the US is EXACTLY that.  A response.  Actions have consequences.  Actions taken by Islamic terrorists demand response. 

This is the very same FLAWED logic used by the supporters of HAMAS.  Hamas takes words of hate and puts them into action.  Then when the REACTION occurs, the BRAVE Hamas hide amongst women and children.  Nice folks.....  Then when the carnage is over, Hamas comes out with video cameras to capture the blood to score some bucks to buy more weapons. 

Same FLAWED logic, and only the myopic fall for it.  Get some glasses.


out.

My dear brothers im asking ;
Why is it when muslims do bad ,you all label them as ISLAMIC EXTRMISTS and whay is when Christians or Israelys do something bad than is so good it is only a COLLATERAL DAMAGE.???????????
Where is PEACE in IRAK after all that COLLATERAL DAMAGE ?
Why dont you look at your mistakes and apologise for COLLATERAL DAMAGE that you still doing around the world .........And guess what noone is calling your religion EXTREME...........we call you in all truth we will forgive you and accept you as brothers if you only try to behave like humans can.
Worship God and do good deeds thats my EXTREME ISLAM

Peace and blessings of the CREATOR be upon you and your families.

May God bring us in all truth and protect us from ignorance,ameen,ameen,ameen

Alkhadr.Islsm....
I have posed this question "...............and why is when Christians or Israelis do something bad than is so good it is only a COLLATERAL DAMAGE.?"
-As best as i can ascertain, collateral damage is OK, because we do it and anyway it was just an accident(....we were only trying to kill evil terrorists).
But the silly response of the former administration consigned over 4,000 American Service Members to their deaths, along with countless civilians mixed in with the targets of our retribution.  Now we see that our rights guaranteed under the constitution are collateral damage as well in this so-call war on terror....
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/documents/memomilitary...
-Habias Corpus and First Amendment freedom-of-the-press rights are lost in order to combat the terror threat?
-Peace be with you, my man...

I guess no one told Obama who just sent 17,000 troops (without a plan) to Afghanistan to commit collateral damage.


Dave, your logic is muddled as always. 

So what was the 5 rockets just sent in to Israel last week?  Please give me your nifty categories of excuses please.

The reason why there is collateral damage when taking out Muslim terrorists is because they hide behind the skirts of women and small children.  This is done ON PURPOSE.  So brave they are....shoot you from behind and then run behind a woman. 

They are not MEN, but MICE.


out.

Yo Hobohoh! That was good! I remember a saying in the Philippines when I went there about 10 years ago, " a good muslim is a dead muslim because he can not stab, harm &/or kill you anymore." hahaha! They hide behind every girl's skirt when they see that they are on the losing end & or about to be overrun & they even use them as human shields! How pathetic these Fucking Muslims are! But when they see a chance to harm, mutilate & kill these women, they jump at it immediately & attibute it to defending the family honor, what sick logic!

Muslim women are more courageous that these fucking Muslim husbands or mice because they dare face the consequences of their actions even if it means dying in the process!
Hooray for these Muslim women!!!!!

<< This is done ON PURPOSE.  So brave they are....shoot you from behind and then run behind a woman. They are not MEN, but MICE.    -out.>>
I am sorry about my muddled logic.  And i am in absolute awe of your
Brilliance! Such tactical insight....
-now ask yourself,
"Why don't those damn'd terrorists fight like men and have definable military bases like we do, so we can bomb the hell out of 'em?"
Wow, someone should tell them they ain't following da rules!
Maybe you could teach them how to be brave.

So brave they are....shoot you from behind and then run behind a woman. They are not MEN, but MICE.    -out.>>
we could compare this to timothy geithner!  the markets are tumbling and his is in hiding!  when the going gets tough, you hide.  obama is not man enough to stand before the american people and take the truth so he just ignores the markets and let's us suffer with his lame policies.

Dave, just listen to yourself.....making apologies for cowardice...how sweet, but somehow not surprising.  Let's get women and children killed because we can't stand our ground.  They are not attacking us because we showed up Dave.  We showed up because they are attacking.....lawdy.


Don't get me started on Obama Titus, i don't have the time right now to list the noobness which is his presidency.  maybe later, I've got to go fire a rocket at my neighbor and hide behind some kids.


out.

<<Dave, just listen to yourself.....making apologies for cowardice...how sweet, but somehow not surprising.>>
Apologizing?  I'm making statements based on reality.  Maybe that isn't a concept you're familiar with, i don't know.....
It would be STUPID for any entity to wage war against the greatest military power on earth in a set piece battle.  These guys(our enemies)....aren't stupid my friend.  To think they are would be to show our own lack of intelligence.  No, i do not apologize for them, and neither would i expect them to wage war on our terms.
So lets be smart and not play into their hands.......that would be stupid.

That is exactly what Obama is doing...playing into their strength.  he is the essence of noobness and the worlds despots and dictators are paying attention.  They always do.  The weakness is quite apparent.  The world is becoming a far more dangerous place now that we have lost our cowboy.  If Bush wasn't such a modest guy and a patriot he'd be seen laughing his arse off. 

It's not funny however... what is funny is the growing chorus for Obama to produce that birth certificate.  Now that is a vote of confidence....not.

out.

سلام ، شما از اسلام همین ها را نبینید . اسلام زیبائی هایش بسیار بیشتر از آن چیزی است که در این چند عکس می بینید. اسلام دینی است با رأفت فراوان و عدالت خواهی کسترده ؛ تا جائی که امام اول ما شیعیان بنا به گفته جرج جرداق مسیحی در کتاب صوت العدالة الاسلامیه , او را شهید عدالتش می داند.

<<If Bush wasn't such a modest guy and a patriot.....>>-Hoboboh
Modesty nor patriotic seem to be descriptions of Duhb-ya.....
How do you arrive at such a flawed idea of this rich patrician?
Most well informed people understand that serving in the National Guard during the Vietnam war days was in fact a way to avoid serving in the real war going on in Southeast Asia.  A real patriot would not suspend the constitution as Duhb-ya was doing during his term as president....
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/documents/memomilitary...
Permitting warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens—is this really patriotic?
"First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully," Yoo wrote in the memo entitled "Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activity Within the United States."-Michael Isikoff(in his Newsweek article from 2 March..
We have every right to defend ourselves against criminal acts, but it seems to me(and some in congress) that this is reminiscent of the Nixon days, and an investigation into these illegal and un-patriotic acts should begin.
I'd like to see the over grown frat boy and his cohort Cheney end up in jail, for that would send a message to other future despots that this will not be tolerated in a free society.

David--i would like to see pelosi and frank in jail for all of their dealings to purposely destroy this country.  obama is right in there with them but since he is just proven to be a puppet to pelosi, i won't say that about him for a little while longer.

WRONG again DAVE!!  Gosh, I can't hide the fact that I missed typing that... lol.

The Air National Guard has often been ridiculed as a safe place for military duty during the Vietnam War. However, pilots from the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, as it was called at the time, were actually conducting combat missions in Vietnam when Bush enlisted. Air Force F-102 squadrons had been stationed in Thailand since 1961 and South Vietnam since March 1962. It was during this time that the Kennedy administration began building up a large US military presence in the region as a deterrent against North Vietnamese invasion.

DING!!!

By the way, it is no small thing to be a fighter jet pilot.  It shows a level of intelligence and expertise.  Tell me Dave, can Obama even fly an ultralight?  uhhh no...

nuff said. 

It's been awhile dave but i can see you're still willing to post without back up of your smears... 

So easy.

out.

Hobo(115)...
I'll stand by the fact that National Guard duty was the BEST way to avoid duty in Vietnam....
-How many combat missions were flown by F-102's into North Vietnam?
-How many F-102's were shot down in air operations over North Vietnam?
I'll jst go out on a limb and say.....not many.  Compared to regular Air Force personnel and aircraft ANY contribution by Guard units to the overall mission in Vietnam was miniscule.
I'm not a big fan of Bill Clinton, nor John Kerry.....but both of them had way more balls that Duhb-Ya.  Clinton at least spoke his mind, and Kerry actually engaged in combat missions against enemy forces.  Bush?   Where was he?   Where was Cheney?  Both of em are pussies......OUT!

Jackie(114)......
<<David--i would like to see pelosi and frank in jail for all of their dealings to purposely destroy this country....>>
-How? How did they seek to destroy the country again?  I hope you're not going to make the ridiculous statement that Barney Frank & Nancy Pelosi are responsible for the economic mess we are in?
Back on track here....The question here is the loss of our freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.   And we are supposed to be championing freedom in Iraq?  All led by a rich draft dodger?  -Yes, i stand by my statement in (113), 
<<Most well informed people understand that serving in the National Guard during the Vietnam war days was in fact a way to avoid serving in the real war going on in Southeast Asia. >>

You miss the point as usual Dave.  You stated that people joined the national guard to escape combat...BUT at the time of bush's enlistment ( he volunteered, (gasp), there was a DISTINCT possibility of him being sent into combat.  Whether he was sent overseas to fight is not germane.  He knew going in that he might have to go. 

That is a superb definition of a patriot in my opinion. 

Here's the info you requested plus a bit more.

USAF F-102 squadrons continued to be stationed in both nations throughout most of the Vietnam War. The Delta Dagger was based at Tan Son Nhut, Bien Hoa, and Da Nang in South Vietnam and also stood alert at Don Muang and Udorn in Thailand. The planes were typically used for fighter defense patrols and as escorts for B-52 bomber raids. The F-102 was considered one of the most useful air defense aircraft in theater because it had the fastest response time of any fighter stationed in South Vietnam.
Since North Vietnamese pilots generally avoided combat with their American counterparts, the F-102 had few opportunities to engage in its primary role of air combat. However, the Deuce was adapted for close air support starting in 1965. Delta Daggers armed with unguided rockets made attacks on Viet Cong encampments to harass enemy soldiers, and the aircraft's heat-seeking air-to-air missiles were even used to lock onto enemy campfires at night. Though the F-102 had not been designed for this type of combat, the plane was surprisingly effective and pilots often reported secondary explosions coming from their targets. An Aviation Week article of the period credited the 509th FIS, an F-102 squadron stationed in Vietnam, with destroying 106 buildings, damaging 59 more, sinking 16 sampans, and destroying one bridge during 199 sorties over the course of 45 days. The manufacturer Convair proposed a series of upgrades to build upon these promising results and further improve the design's ground attack capabilities, but the concept was dropped due to Air Force funding constraints.



These close air support missions were also quite dangerous since they required low-level flight over armed ground troops. A total of 15 F-102 fighters were lost in Vietnam. Three were shot down by anti-aircraft or small arms fire, one was lost in air-to-air combat with a MiG-21, four were destroyed on the ground during Viet Cong mortar attacks, and the remainder succumbed to accidents.
Such accidents were commonplace even under peacetime conditions given the inherent risk to a pilot's life during any flight aboard a high-performance military jet. ANG members of the period who we've been able to locate indicate that only highly qualified pilot candidates were accepted for Delta Dagger training because it was such a challenging aircraft to fly and left little room for mistakes. According to the Air Force Safety Center, the lifetime Class A accident rate for the F-102 was 13.69 mishaps per 100,000 flight hours, and the rate was especially high during the early years of the plane's service.

IF BUSH WAS LOOKING FOR A SAFE PLACE TO GET OUT OF SERVICE.....the data says he choose poorly.  Or perhaps like most type A personalities with REAL FLYING SKILLS (they don't just put anyone in those things you know), he wished to serve despite the INHERENT danger.
I'm sorry.....wrong again Dave.
 
 
out.

well. . .
Soon the Imam Mahdi and then you are your enemy Mahdi and Jesus and other Prophets. . . And GOD
And when we are the single i you promise that is with regard to you and I had made the difference show
and you to the door to hell i accompanied
just a few years we have time to wake up from injuries .i have a lot of Islam know

David-- i won't even try to explain pelosi's and frank's role because we have gone over this time and time again.  that is why you are a liberal.  it is easy to overlook their roles to place the blame entirely on the republicans, which is wrong as most of us know.

Hoboboh(118)....
-Would have us believe F-102's were somehow an aircraft that was integral to our air operations in southeast Asia during the Vietnam war, and that George Bush Jr. somehow was about to be shipped out to an airborne hell over North Vietnam.....
While it is true that an Air national Guard unit was stationed in southeast Asia during the Vietnam conflict, the one bit of information that Hoboboh failed to mention was that out of 8,588 fixed‐wing aircraft and helicopters.
lost over southeast Asia during the war, only one F-102 was lost in air to air combat.....and a total of 15 were lost during the war.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0...
http://www.answers.com/topic/u-s-air-operations...

Out of 58,193 service members killed in Vietnam, 97 were national Guard members.....
http://www.archives.gov/research/vietnam-war/ca...
GNID! (......Ding spelled backwards)
Yes Hobo, Duhb-ya was a pussy.

Just to be fair, George H.W. Bush was quite a brave lad in his youth, joining the navy to become the youngest  naval aviator at the time.  He did this despite his father's advice,  unlike his eldest.
...he served flying combat missions over the pacific, being shot down on a mission over Chichi Jima.  Flyboys: A True Story of Courage-by James Bradley recounts this story....

You need to put do put down the pipe Dave and FOCUS....

You said Bush went in to get out of service.  It is quite clear that Bush knew darn well he could be sent to Vietnam by becoming a fighter jet pilot in the national guard.  It is irrelevant how many were actually utilized or shot down (which I have already posted).  The posit you proposed is incorrect.  If indeed Bush wanted to get out of serving, he should not have gone into jets.  He knew he could be asked to go. 



out.

obama could have also served but didn't.

<<It is quite clear that Bush knew darn well he could be sent to Vietnam by becoming a fighter jet pilot in the national guard>>-Hoboboh

-Wrong again my friend.  Guard units were given a specific mission which to perform.  In other words their operational ability to perform more than one specific task was stymied by the fact that the were only serving part-time.
-Weekend Warriors, as some called them.
George Bush's unit was task to perform operations over the Gulf of Mexico looking for bombers coming out of Cuba....
<<If indeed Bush wanted to get out of serving, he should not have gone into jets.  He knew he could be asked to go.>>
-He knew this(that his squadron he was joining would go no where near southeast Asia).....and his is, unlike his dad, a pussy & a chicken hawk.

Jackie(124)......
Obama could have served.....but at the time he was of age to serve, there was no national emergency on the order of Vietnam, or Korea, or WW2.....

David:  people serve in a time of peace too.  he could have signed up.  the draft is not the only reason people serve their country.

if my son were in the military and overseas right now, i would feel so much better to have a president who had served himself.  obama has no clue what he is doing and has no experience to pull from.  if my son were in the military right now, i would ensure i figured out a way to go over there myself and watch after him.  hopefully obama will let the military experts tell him what needs to be done.  if not, our soldiers will be in more danger than before.  bush made big mistakes but finally listened to the commanders.  i don't trust obama to take out my trash much less take care of my son!

<<if my son were in the military and overseas right now, i would feel so much better to have a president who had served himself.>>-Jackie(128)

-Our 32nd president didn't serve, yet had quite a distinguished record as Cmd-in-Chief.  Perhaps because of his pick of George Marshall as his Chief of Staff of the Army.
But more to the point....you remember the story of those who live in glass houses? (.....and the stones they shouldn't throw.)  The castigation of a man who served in real combat when he himself avoided service in that conflict is the height of hypocrisy.
<< Obama has no clue what he is doing and has no experience
to pull from>>
-"No clue" is exactly how i'd describe Bush Jr.'s tenure as Cmd-in-Chief......no clue, except how to exploit a situation to undermine the constitution i and many others swore to defend.
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/documents/memomilitary...

Oh please !! religion is about believing in something that is bigger than all of us. Something  that we all believe in and provides a source of refuge for us. If you are muslim and believe that it is right for you to be beaten after you were raped, do you really think it is worth it?  the beating is some law some human made up that he CONSIDERS right. That behaviour is INHUMANE. just like the little boy who's hand they crushed because he took a piece of bread. I mean seriously! have a little heart and a little mercy!

David--obviously, we are going to agree to disagree again.  look at the mess obama has created since he has been in office!  do you not see the negative consequences of every decision he has made?  i guess blinders are going fast in the retail stores?  so if my son were in the military right now, obama would not be happy at this mother causing such an uproar to protect her son.  now other folks can argue this point to the cows come home but as i said before, i wouldn't trust this idiot to take out my garbage!  i will stand by this statement!

i have no doubt that you will indeed stand by your comments, titus- however you and those that agree with you are in the extreme minority presently.  obama  is currently at a 75%+ favored status with regards to the public confidence in him and the directions that he has taken. 
irrational limbaugh and followers- to give you an idea of just where your wagon is hitched... favorability for him and his ilk... 9%.
but you keep it up titus.  you are a never ending source of misinformation and amusement.

Dora--just shows the dumbing down of Americans!  look at the markets, pork spending and promises he has broken (lies).  but hey, it's a free country so ignore it.  that is why we have big dropout rates among other things in this country--ignorance!  keep on bringing Rush into the conversation because it is funny!  you have to have a crutch!  misinformation is coming from you and others have pointed that out also.

Jackie(131).....
<<i wouldn't trust this idiot to take out my garbage!  i will stand by this statement!>>
-I can't say this enough.....Jackie, Obama Inherited quite a mess, huh?
You speak of trust......did you trust Bush Jr. to leave a better nation than the one Clinton left him?  One day you'll wake up and see that his presidency was a mistake for our nation.

<< i guess blinders are going fast in the retail stores?>>
-To Not see that republican policies of de-regulation, trillion dollar tax cuts for the wealthy, and a trillion dollar war has negatively impacted our nation would require blinders. There is a sizable minority who think as you do Jackie, but your numbers are shrinking from say, eight years ago.

As for the military, Obama again has inherited a HUGE mess, thanx to his predecessor.(....what good did Bush do?)  Obama's pick to run Veteran Affairs gives me hope, as well as Bob Gates at Defense....his opposition to wasteful F-22's we can ill afford at this time gives me hope(......and he's a former Air Force guy, so he must know what he's talking about!).  He has sense that Donald Rumsfeld wishes he had.

But this conflict will only be won with Defense working in tandem with the State Dept.
(....if only that silly Bush punk would have listened to Colin Powell!)....but i have my doubts about Hillary.....we'll see.  Pakistan is a scary place, .....Palestinians&Israelis
will continue to fight.  The best thing we can do is to find a way to exit that sad region as we work on ending our dependance on oil as a fuel source...it can be done, but it won't be easy.  Our chances of finding Obama are slim at best, we lost our chance way back in late 2001....

Your guys had their chance.  Republicans had majorities in both houses of congress, as well as the executive branch......and they screwed it ALL up!  I do hope the GOP can figure it out, and become more than just a party of angry old folks whose only response is NO.

davidwwalters72....

Howzit man

Just wanted to conclude that screw BUSH & everything associated with him (including Bush Jr....)...all the way OBAMA..his up for change..

Later...

your all motherfucking cunts suck my cock motherucking islam and even christianity why the fuck belive all this baaaaaaaaal shit! man... you people need to fucking go over their with a macheti and fucking chop those muslin dicks to peices and make sure they fucking shoot ur heds off u son of a bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¬!""@!@!@!@!@!!@!@!@!!@

you son of cunt121212121212122......

What the fuck is up with your language ur bitch...didnt your mother teach you manners....oh shit my bad puss didnt notice you a son of a CUNT....
HAHAHA

gROW UP MAN

it is OH so easy to "talk the talk".....as Animal said in "Full Metal Jacket"
-But to actually "walk the walk" is a new dimension.  Just try to cut off some dicks.....you may succeed to a degree, but the BLOWBACK may be more than you'd be willing to bear.

mengapa ISLAM identik dengan kekerasan, pemerkosaan hak azasi manusia, pemaksaan kehendak pada orang lain. Inilah agama pembawa ke NERAKA

I dont wanna say everything that people in islam do is right.but look,if u have alook @ what islam says u will see that islam is completely opposit of what such these people do.consider if u wanna say sth bad about sth u can find many things that people do just by name of that .and if wanna have a comparison,just consider what america is doing in iraq,afganistan,&what it is doing in Gaza.have a comparison then judge .

The Holy Qu'ran does not promote the above as the Holy Bible does not promote the actions of the Northern Ireland conflict or the radicules of the KKK

The problem is that people get mixed ideas about Islam when they see Muslims commiting the above and not relising it is not an Islam tradition but infact a culture tradition.

When American Christians celerbrate your 4th of July should outsiders think that it is a Christian tradition? No it is your cultural tradition!
There is a big differance. So when a Muslim does something weather it is right or wrong, dont jump to the conclusion and think it is Islam because it could be just there culture and not religon!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers from Australia!!!!!!!!

Hey Glen! U must be looking the other way, man! U want these fucking muslims to show you their sick culture right there in ur neighborhood? Let's stop these Fuckers before they do these in your birthplace because i've seen enough violence of this Fuckung culture in mine!

I dont understand why people take time to make articles like this one it's rubbish and all full of lies. Every religion has some weriod ass shite 
i dont mean to affend anyone wether you muslim or not. in some other countries there are laws  like the U.S and some other countires like the middle east there's puishment like whippings. Thats the law, don't blame the religion for what the law is commiting. I live in America and i never see a muslim person being rude to aonther person they show so much respect and care for other people. But just because the media attacked this religion as terrorist every one in the world hate's it now and that sucks reall bad. Have you ever seen the vidoe on youtube were the u.s millitary ladie has a naked iraq guy with a fucken leash on him like he is a dog. why be so cruel and call your self a good christain he could have done nothing for all we no. back during 1920 blacks were being lyinched and burned alive by "so called good christians" but the media didnt call out that religion" so lets leave all this behind and shake hands with everyone and stop this crazy war with muslims cause that what it really is THANKS

okay, so for everyone who thinks muslims are the only one's wh odo this.




there is a CHRISTIAN MAN WHO LIVED IN THE U.S. named derik bonestroo.
he killed a general manager named Brian Mohan, it's known for a fact that is why because he literally went into work saying, "if your not christian, you're gonna die"


and what about the guy who thought he was Jesus? and kept a bunch of people in his "Church", raping little girls and when the cops found out he blew the whole place up.


there are extremeists in every religion, it's not because of the religion, it's because they're crazy


I'm fourteen, and I probably no more than most of you, goddamn!

Well, Thank God, I see that my fellow Muslims have done a great job arguing and defending for thier religion...like they always do

Unfortunately, This Blogger couldnt believe she got her hands on these great pics that helps support her uneducated and bias opinion of Islam (you would think she should spend more time with her own religion, right ?) .

Well anyway, dont sweat my fellow Muslims, her blog's not gonna affect anything. She has just gotten any pics she can find of some few incidents that happened over the last billion years (And they probably might not have even concered Muslims).  
So Inshallah, dont worry about opinions like these, because they dont matter, and inshallah the truth of Islam will be revealed and understood by all one of these day.

Dear brothers & sisters in Islam :

Do not let these arrogant & idiotic people get to you.
There are many articles about the abuse & torture of our Muslims by the American soldiers whom are christians & others religions.
There are thousands of other articles about evil acts against Islam.
Why does'nt the moron that defames our Muslim people also defame his own.

"Yes i did read the entire article".

Well i suppose his a puppet for the american government.
Yes it is wrong for people to act out in terror,but you do not
blame or criticise their entire religion for it.
 
I THINK YOU PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH "ISLAM" & MUSLIMS IN GENERAL.

Well here's a fact : Currently 24% of the worlds population follow Islam & 31% follow christianity.
However should current trends continue,by the midst 21st centuary,the greater part of the worlds population will follow Islam.

Live with it people,we not going anywhere.

By the way its our Holy day today, "Jummah Mubarak" to Muslims all over the world.

Oh yes and one more thing,please recite this: "Laa ilaaha illal Laho Mohammadur Rasoolullah". (There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Rasool (Messenger) of Allah).

There,you said it so now please embrace Islam & stop criticising religions for individual acts.
By uttering this Kalima you have now become purified from disbelief.

Way to go OMG

Come now people,please learn from this child.
Knowledge is power & so is "ISLAM",do not use media,pictures & bullshit stories to defame "ISLAM"

WELL SAID MAZIN! You said all that i felt and is in my heart.
MASHALLAH..


Salam x

you do not know anything about islam ,,you just take about something and you didn't see it ..islam is a good religion ,,they love others religions..but some people like you talking about islam and you didn't dealing with muslims.. so you are lied !!!

You have to understand,  the freaks that frequent this blog - the ultra religious right - are easily as violent as any other misguided religious fanatic of any faith.   they are quick to condone Islam because they automatically hate anything they cannot understand.  they don't have the brains to do any research on the religion itself-  which will forever keep them in the brain-dead zone.

I would suggest,  for any followers of the Islamic faith- do not be alarmed by the three assholes that frequently post here.   They are religious bigots who endorse the use of the terms "towel head"  and "rag-heads".  They have no class and do not represent the vast majority of Americans who live in harmony with the many cultures and religions that are represented in America.

THE FUCKING MULISM ARE FUCKING CRAZY AND SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE THE NAZI WERE ARE THEY HAD KILLED MILLIONS IN CAMPS!! STUPID  MUSLIMS.

salam 3likom i just wanna say something in every religion there is bad people and good people if we look for a one site we will make an unfair judgment and when we look for a religion we look for the religion itself and people who make it rules with the RIGHT WAY not with the wrong one islam calling for peace this is ISLAM and before talking about it try to look at it you can http://www.islamreligion.com/ try to look and read plz

Way to tell the truth!
Don't listen to these morons who bother to read the title "Extreme Islam."  They're a bunch of ignorant apologists who have never seen the true face of the "religion of peace."

This is not Islam if any want to know about Islam than read the Quran and Hadiss what it says you dont say Islam is bad if you know about real Islam. Because Islam dont punish anyone without any wrong reason. ok If any body have to know than should read About Islam than Decide.

It wasn't muslims who bombed a church in Northern Ireland in the 1980s, it was a Catholic paramilitary organisation who were funded by American citizens.

"anti islam" i can see how frustrated u r from ur language...

but i wanaa tell all muslims that dont worry abt this idiots, they dont know what is islam ,what islam teaches, but we know and islam will be spread in whole world..

assalamoalaykum..khuda hafiz..

Well Said Junaid Brother!

This anti ISLAM ppl have no work finding bad things in islam, ppl just go in mosque and learn only 3 words, you will hear only peace! peace! peace!


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khuda hafiz all muslim and non muslim brothers and sisters

what bullshit.go and do some social work. just stop this and write something which will improve someone.

This is Propaganda against Islam

no that wrong
every time the muslems is do wrong and they killers
for how long will stay spoking wrong thing about islam?

extreme islam men are cowards ( they prey on the defenseless, remember that terroristic siege in mumbai? they shot and killed people who did not even do them harm) & have no self control ( just because a woman is not muslim, they behead her like that incident in jakarta. rape her & mutilate her just because he sees her in all her beauty & splendor ). I will make it my mission in life to go after every fucking muslim man who will rape, mutilate and murder women, ( muslim or non-muslim ). all it takes for evil to prosper is when good men do nothing to stop it!

no is not islam or christian.....it is the bad of human and there is alot of bad photo for muslim and christians and jewish, if you search you will find, the religion is for God and this photo shows how badly they treat each other and the same people muslim or christian or jewish can treat each other good

I am a Baptist. I have about 15 different denominations of religions in my neighborhood, we all walk or ride to our individual church together. We live by each other, we are neighbors, we work together and we sure don't try to kill each other. Further, we don't try to make the entire world one religion. So, where does that put the United States in respect to religions? RADICAL ISLAM'S roll in this world is to turn the whole world "RADICAL ISLAM." Those who will not convert, must die! So, where does that put Islam in respect to religions? IT IS NO GOOD AND HAS TO BE ABOLISHED!

wtf...

why do people always bring up the worse side of islam and to the last story please give us ref..
if you start reading the Quran you will find all your answers..that there is a reason behind every action that muslims take..pleaso give me a break.. this is propaganda

Sismuslim, I don't have to produce any reference to anything. I am an American and I live in America. America is a Christian nation! If you want reference to that, read our constitution. If you want reference that Radical Islam want's all of us westerners destroyed, take a look at the history of bombings. Begin with 911 and go backwards. Read about who is behind all those bombings and you will have your valid answer. And you have the nerve to say talking about Radical Muslims is propaganda!

Ack, you are just a bigot!!!!!

I am sorry to say, amber, this is not news. Bubbles is a religious, political, racial, and sexual bigot. Bubbles, Jackie, Ds, 2blue, and Aliy are pretenders- posers who listen with their fists and speak before their brain is in gear. They take no interest or initiative to broaden their minds or imaginations. They live in fear of their own shadows. They are short of memory and long on wind. Very sad specimens. Tragic indeed.
Don't hold your breath for their enlightenment. Rather a lost cause.

does he consider himself a bigot?

Amber and Dora Lawhora, what part of what I said is not true? You're the bigots and very large ones at that. I am an American! I am a Baptist! I do not have to explain anything to anyone! America is a Christian nation that was founded on Christian principles! Who is behind all those bombings? And you call me a bigot for talking about me and my country? FUCK BOTH OF YOU DUMB ASS IDIOTS! You're worse than the terriorist in my book!

I guess thats a no.

Ack We are "worse than the terrorist" for expressing an opinion. You claim to be a religious man, but you strike me as someone who is cruel and violent by nature, who lacks empathy or compassion for anything that is not like you. What have you learned from your years as a baptist???
As for being classified as "worse than the terrorists in your book" am i to take that as a threat? I would like you to clarify exactly what that means. Do I belong in gitmo in your mind?

Amber, yes I am a christian. I am an American and I love my country. I also have learned there are people who would just as soon destroy this country from within as not. (on domestic soil) I classify you and Dora as two of those people. This is no longer just a political argument or an election political battle, YOU ARE ENEMY OF THIS COUNTRY through your actions and I believe the actions of you and others WILL ULTIMATELY DESTROY AMERICA!

I have always been ready to stand, fight and die if necessary, for my country both on foreign soil or on domestic soil. Most of our battles have been on foreign soil but this one is on our turf here in the US. I STILL STAND READY TO TAKE UP ARMS IF NEED BE. That is against the ENEMY of this country. If you're the enemy, then you're in my line of fire... Call it what ever you like and call me what ever you want to call me. What I said it TRUTH!

I will hold fast to my words; I am not like a bunch of liberals; when the going gets tough, they run, they hide and blame Bush.

You and Dora call me names and you don't even know anything about me. Except that I am a conservative christian, a republican all of which you and her aparently hate. You people hate because of some belief. You know nothing about how I treat my neighbor, or my children or grand children. You don't take under consideration that I am a husband, a dad, a grand dad and many other good things I enjoy in life. You just hate me because I believe homosexuality is a sin. That's all - BOTTOM LINE!

AckAck--I'm with you! When the going gets tough, liberals become cowards. they lie, deny and run! they aren't willing to take responsibility for their failures. look at what obama did during the van jones debacle. it was really pitiful! biden had the nerve to lie and say that the "stimulus" is working better than expected. well, this statement is easily proven false since their expectation was no more than a 8.2% unemployment rate. who in the hell were their math teachers? liberals will ignore this lie too as they ignore everything else. true Americans are forced to stand up against these morons since they made the decision to destroy our country!

Jackie, when a liberal stands up and tells a lie, it's not for me and you. It's for their supporters because they know the supporters will either believe them or over look it! They know the rest of the world is looking on and saying "lier!" They don't give a crap. Oh, they would love for you and me to believe it, but only the real stupid ones will believe it or forgive them.

When the president of the United States fits into that same pattern, it's a sad time. But, that's the way it is.

It is really hard to understand that people buy into the lies they are selling, especially since they have been duped by obama time and time again. It is sad that there are a lot of people in this country that are stupid enough to never learn to not be fooled twice. The evil in the left is so far reaching. There is nothing that they won't do. When innocent children die at their hands and they try to blame it on science to be able to live with themselves, nothing else needs to be said about where the evil is in this country. Of course, some on the left still claim to be Christians, which we know is a another lie!

Jackie, we are dealing with a bunch of nut cases sort of like the Jim Jones project. Remember that? All those folks killed themselves! Only in greater proportions, now there are thousands and thousands, kind of like the Pied Piper with all the little mice following the music and falling into the ocean. IT IS LIKE THAT WITH OBAMA'S FOLLOWERS! And for what? Taking their country away from them!

Dora I must confess to liking Aily. She respond to my questions respectfully despite the fact that we agree on almost nothing. I also like DS. He is a religious wingnut, but in his mind he is trying to save me from damnation and i appreciate the gesture.

Amber, I'm not sure if Aliy would respond to a dumb ass remark like that. I'm real sure she cares whether you like her or not. She knows what you are! That's all that needs to be said in that area...

i totally agree with thoese ways and still think they are not enough , as an islamist man u are not allowed to get married until u are 30 just ask some urologists and some psychiatrists , and some biochimists why is that ? modern science agrees with islamist ways u can search why in the history manuals , i dont think there is a god who interacts with us , all the religions were constructed and engeneered by smart ppl in the past (this thing is stil going on today) , and most of the religions allied with the state so both can have control over the population , the main purpose of an religion is the happyness of thoese who follow it , and it is constructed by laws of phylosophy over society and psichology , islam should have been today the religion of the entire world , but in some point in the history stopped evolving , and because nothing , no system is perfect or ideal islam isnt also , but started as a leading philosophy judging by its succes of making ppl happy , today are a bunch of ppl who are converting to islam , the new world order is about that , about unifying the world so only one government can rule the entire world , so we can all be united , and a main power that need to be eliminated is islam , the men behind the curtain think they have better metods of providing us happyness , but i dont think this is their main purpose , and i dont like their ways , maybe i'm wrong , maybe there's not another way

Alex, in my lifetime religion has never been a problem because in America we have always had more who believed in a devine power than not. The freedom of religion in America has contributed to our being a powerful country. Our religion is still not a problem except to those who have none! But they still have that choice. There are a few loud ones in this country. Our problem in America is that we have trusted and followed our elected leaders to the point that they seem to be for something that America is not. Our elected officials have neglected to follow in the foot steps of the founding fathers of this great country. The purpose of our government is supposed to be to serve it's people. It has grown so big and so powerful that it now serves itself and an elite few.

Seems the constitution means nothing to them anymore nor our rights under the constitution. They want our rights to be under the government, do away with the constitution and that's not how America works. It was not set up to work that way in the beginning and it will never work that way. Each Presidential Administration seems to want more power so they just grow government to a larger size and that gives them more individual power to that position. Since the people now serves the government, it can proceed to do as it wishes. Whatever it might be! I still do not have a problem with religion nor with those who do not want any type of religion. Only those who would take my rights away from me do I have a problem with.

AckAck , may i have your yahoo messanger id ?

forgot to mention - i'm able to kill or torture somebody , but i have to have a really good motive ,until now i coudnt find them i think one of the main causes is my ethic , for example if i get smacked in the face in the street by a person i dont hate it , i dont even feel the need of revange because he didnt have the conditions/chance to develop a mind like mine , he does that and i dont not because he's evil , he is just stupid and i feel pitty for him , and ofcourse i dont know what would happen with my mind knowing i killed a person u can judge me by being a cold blooded killer , and in fact thats what i am , but here's another thought experiment , if i find myself in a situation in wich i have to kill or be killed , after doing this i would not regret anything about my actions because i had no other choice , but i would regret if a sick man had to die regardless of the ppl who this man had killed, above that i would feel nothing more ,picture this : if a man is hipnotised and commanded to kill , is that man a killer ? , ask yourself another question , does anybody choses to be good or bad ? or your mind is just the product of your social life until the moment ur thinking about it ? , many of us would kill for material , most of the ppl are able and do harm other ppl just to obtain their needs , i would beat and torture many of you just because of that , because in your mind u know it's wrong and u know she/he will suffer , but ur just thankful it's not u , u do it couse ur stupid and dont know another way to obtain what u are seeking , and just think that's life , maybe hittler was right by killing so many ppl , maybe bush is right too , our behaviour hasnt evolved not even a bit from bacteria until now , maybe i'll become an artist and exteriorize this sorrow of mine in some art form , or maybe i'm just so stressed of it and not even able to do that art , therefore maybe i'll join politics .

Oh! I obstained from mentioning I am a trained killer also. I wouldn't harm a flea in life but I would mame and mingle my enemy in any way, fashion or form. I would look my eney in the eye and blow their head off without blinking. RADICAL ISLAM is my enemy and anyone who supports Radical Islam is my enemy. My country is at war with Radical Islam and I would die today to defeat it...

i would really like to have a chat with u right now give me your yahoo messanger id pls.

you are both sick

Not as sick as you nut case!

What is wrong with the two of you? Torture?? Only a world class fool would fantasize or commit torture how can you call yourself a christian?
You are no real christian

Is this the real nature of the extreme right?

what about you jackie? Are you ready to take up arms and go killing liberals?

since you are off topic and no one mentioned this, you must be on some heavy duty drugs or hear voices in your head. normal people would not jump to such stupid conclusions and they could never dream about such crap so you definitely have a problem that can't be solved here. so with these stupid statements to Ack and I, you have just proven what we have said all along--you can't communicate with a damn liberal. by the way, who in the hell are you to say who is a Christian and who is not. you are definitely not in any position to judge anyone on this! however, if i ever have a question about a people who kill babies and how they can possibly sleep at night knowing they support such horrific actions, i'll ask you! you are da man!

maybe hitler was right?

Amber, just like a good liberal you are blowing everything out of shape. I SAID NOTHING ABOUT TORTURING ANYONE. That other nut case talked about that. I simply said I would kill my enemy. I also said I wouldn't harm a flea. Why don't you get some of that hatred out of your mind and listen to me sometime. You might actually learn something. I simply stated the truth. That's all, no more! And you go on and on about how bad the right is and bring in all kinds of other stuff that is a lie. See how you left wing nuts are? You fantasize things in your mind - I don't know, maybe you see them as real. You better see the light before you die. There's always still time as long as you are living. Once you're dead, you don't have that chance to make it right.

Amber, just like a good liberal you are blowing everything out of shape. I SAID NOTHING ABOUT TORTURING ANYONE. That other nut case talked about that. I simply said I would kill my enemy. I also said I wouldn't harm a flea. Why don't you get some of that hatred out of your mind and listen to me sometime. You might actually learn something. I simply stated the truth. That's all, no more! And you go on and on about how bad the right is and bring in all kinds of other stuff that is a lie. See how you left wing nuts are? You fantasize things in your mind - I don't know, maybe you see them as real. You better see the light before you die. There's always still time as long as you are living. Once you're dead, you don't have that chance to make it right.

salam.for those who say Islam is wrong...i pray to Allah to forgive them...actually my religious is very beautiful...if u guys really wanna to know seek that in Al Quran...n maybe u guys wanna join us!!!the history of Islam is so glorious!!!n what happen now also had been written in Allah Book..(al Quran)..for jarvis,u must know what happen to those man that beheaded the children...maybe their whhole family had been murdered by the army of U.S n maybe their whole village was destroy by U,S...11/9 started all this...is it really that it come from us?or it is just one way to destroy us?as u know the president father lost in the great battle long long time ago...n maybe he want to take revenge???actually he know about the threat 1 or 2 days before it happen...but he dont do anything...dont u guys think that this is one of their conspiracy...do u know that all the bullets that come is from ur 1st man??ur God give u head n brain n also mind to think...use it wisely...this all is just one of ur conspiracy to take out Islam...im not worried coz in the end ISLAM will win...

aaaaaaaa hahahahahaha it's like you're all retarded , question : what if the gases from our cars are just a smal procent of the carbon dioxide , and the main reason of the global warming is our unnatural increasing numer US THE HUMANS we are no longer part of the natural sistem the biological chain , so the concluzion --- it;s ok once in a wild to kill a few bilion ppl , or what if carbonm dioxide doesnt even cause global worming or may cause but it's simply not because of the percentage , and the global worming we are experiencing today is mainly because of some experiments gone wrong in the past or near past , lets say like aaaaa a few nuclear explosions (check) or the H.A.R.P.(check) (and thoes are not antenas for high frequencies , check the google or wiki for radio antena lenghts formula and try to determine the aprox freqcuency of thoes in the pictures) , , maybe this global worming is the biggest hoax hiding the real thing or just prepering us for the continuous changing of our civilization , lets take tesla in this logic and consider him a great inventor put in obscurenes (witch it was) , and lets try to understand why , because of his nemesis ? , or because of his little book ? so it is posible that tesla was erased (tried but fail, still the secrets "remain buried with him" to quote a gentleman in a documentary) from history , now lets say there was more than one "tesla" (his kind of genious) how many are/ware working in secret ?, and what they discovered , invented ? , WHEN WILL WE (THE PUBLIC) HAVE THE KNOLEDGE OR USE THE TECHNOLOGY OF TODAY ???-------what do we know ?????? --- in that documentary said that carbon dioxide is.. , in that documentary said that the terorists .... , in that documentary said that wather is .... , on the news said that ..... , in that film said that ....in the magazines said that.... YOU CAN ONLY CHOSE WHAT TO BELIVE . NO ONE UNDERSTANDS NOTHING you(we)'re all retarded at some level.

there is a difference between RELIGION and CULTURE or tradition or attitude. if a christian rapes another, does that mean that all christians are monsters or that this is an act of religion?? the images u see above are merely the result of leaders putting rules and falsely connect them with islam, either because they are stupid or power-hungry assholes. true islam is pure, righteous and peaceful. unfortunately however many of the people who follow it arent pure themselves, or at least the media makes us think that. im muslim btw

lalala, not bad comparisons. However, your comparisons are open ended. They have no substance in as much as many people do not understand RELIGION or CULTURES!. Religion is not Culture, BUT IT CAN PRODUCE A CULTURE! Tradition is not attitude, BUT IT CAN CAUSE CERTAIN ATTITUDES! A pencil is not designed to be a weapon BUT YOU CAN STAB SOMEONE WITH IT! All this has something to do with the subject matter.

An ideology breads certain kinds of beliefs. Religions are beliefs that stem from ideology. So if a certain ideology has birthed a certain kind of people who display a certain kind of attitude against a certain type of people, how can the people who are being targeted not blame the entire tribe, sect, country or any of those who seek that particular ideology? The enemy within that ideology are not marked or offset from the herd. They are mixed in with the herd, and if what you say is true about blaming the whole herd instead of the guilty ones, then we MUST come up with a way to identify the innocent among the herd or BLAME the whole herd. Right now the entire herd is being blamed because we are not getting any help from the ones who supposedly are the good ones. They are not identifying themselves as anything different from that of the bad ones... The whole herd looks the same from this side of the fence.

64,000 dollar question... If there are good ones, HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THEM?

dear ackack

ill have to agree with u about how certain ideologies cause unwanted attitudes or cultures, however, us humans are known to have misunderstood, abused or mistreated ideas throughout history, such as drugs for example. drugs have their positives and negatives, and each outcome has to do with how we treat the drug. same with religion, like islam or christianity, i mean look at the KKK for example.

and ur right again about how many people unfortunately 'generalise' and come to fast conclusions towards many acts, however this is wrong. i, for example, have learnt to never judge a a group of people based upon the acts of just one, and this should be the same way everyone in the world treat others, its an element of ethics.

and exactly which part of the fence are u looking from exactly? i am a muslim living in a european country and most, if not all, my friends are europeans and are christians. i do NOT wish for any harm to be done to any muslim or and other person of any nationality or religion. dont get me wrong but i believe that you, and anyone else who unfortunately misunderstands muslims must get to know more of us, from different backgrounds, before judging. the thing is u would never see any news about balanced peaceful muslims, because its just not exciting enough for the viewers, thats why you must approach them urself

all the negatives about islam u see on the media nowadays are the result of the acts of the misinterpretation or extremism by muslims of the quran, or just exaggeration by the media. every religion consists of its extremists and negative side, however i must say that true christianity, true judaism and true islam are all pure in promote peace and equality.

lalala, again you state that there are good Muslims among the radicals. How can I tell who those people are if they don't stand with me and fight "OUR" enemies. If what you say is true, there will be no good Muslims becaue the good ones are like those in a crown without arms trying to ward off a pack of armed warriors. THEY CAN'T WIN! They will lose everytime. When radicals infiltrate the good, then the good must not stand shoulder to shoulder with the bad, they must take up arms and protect themselves. I see no Muslims fighting Muslins! So, that tells me either they are siding with them or they are them...

Radical Islam is world wide and spreading - how can you just ignore that?

ackack,
im not saying there are good muslims amongst radical muslims, im saying there are good muslims amongst mulims in general.

and well i myself am not a radical muslim, i do not support radical muslims (im actually against forced religion conversion or attacking people based on their religion) and i believe in freedom of religion. so i guess i do not fall under the category of "radical muslims" and amongst all muslims i know, none of them are radical muslims or believe in attacking people from different religions. i believe u really need to meet more muslims before judging.

and actually there are alot of cases where muslims attack muslims, usually radicals fighting those who arent radical, like Shi'a attack Sunni muslims, and the muslim brotherhood in egypt causing controversies, its all on the internet if u wish to know more about those.

how are radical muslims spreading? i mean i know they are, but its not something very well noticable. if u mean BALANCED muslims, then this its just the effect of globalisation. nowadays u see synagogues, mosques and churches in almost every major city in the world.

i respect how you defend christianity and america. but not all my people are radical and wishing harm towards non-muslims.. i certaintly am not. the problem is that some people, like osama bin laden just abuse or misinterpret the rules and instructions in islam, just like for example, it is forbidden to kill the children or women of our 'enemies', however we can clearly see that many terrorists dont follow this rule. hence why would we blame islam? i would never ever blame christianity for any bad even if christians murdered my family for example (god forbid!!!). why? because i know that the basis of christianity promote peace, and that i myself already know good peaceful open minded christians. even if i didnt know any christians, id still know its the people's fault and sin, not the religion's.

I think the Zionism will die soon.
you are scrambling but the result is clear.

i hope so, but i doubt it. despite how judaism's zionism is also a significant factor in relation to how islam is seen today, its not really the focus of this thread or blog, though it should still be considered. despite how they also have great control over the media, banks and other sorts of businesses and hence controlling peoples live indirectly, muslims are somehow still blamed..

please look at below link to see real crime:
http://www.jafariyanews.com/2k8_news/sep/19isra...
i called it "blood bathroom"

and in the end they call the victims terrorists for fighting back...

compensation wouldnt replace these peoples loved ones or inhuman experiences

I am converted 2 islam and before i was a Christian protestant(reformed)...

Thanks 2 God i did find ISLAM before i did find any muslim.. thats why i know what the true Islam is...

And yes this kind of actions are difficault.
But i know for sure that many politic and islamic countrys mis-using the islam as rightsystem.
That is sad..

So a tip 4 everybody : FIND OUT THE TRUE BY YOURSELF IN AL ASPECT IN LIFE ALSO ABOUT ISLAM AND ALL RELIGIONS !!

Because dont believe the Media, newspaper, people, extremist etc..

May God Guide us all to the straight Path... Amien.

Martin

When ISLAM prevails or predominates or rules a country, Syari'ah Law will be applied in all aspects. That's the big big big problem.
What is Syari'ah Law ? Just try to open and read it. You will find something that is very bad to be applied in the reality.
So, the world must stop the application of Syari'ah Law for the sake of HUMAN RIGHTS and FREEDOM.

never heard if Syari'ah, isnt this only in malaysia?

lalala....whoever you are.
Just open http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia or something alike. Read and try to understand it.
The images above are of the description of Sharia applied in Moslem/Islamic Countries, especially in Middle East.
The girl, AQSA PARVEZ, and many others, are the victims of Sharia Application.
Sharia Law originally is the Law of The Jews. Please study the Old Testament - The Law of Moses.
Unfortunately, the law has been taken by Mohammad (the prophet of Islam) who saw that the law is good to be applied.
According to my opinion, the law is too old to be applied nowadays, when the people all over the world must be protected with their HUMAN RIGHTS and FREEDOM, because THE GOOD LORD, THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE has given them to us in order to live in harmony, loving each other and knowing that this universe is changing, includes the human of course.

When Mohammad and his followers lived in Madinah and were still weak comparing to the Jews, Mohammad made a commandment to pray like the Jews (the orientation to pray is Jerusalem, etc). When Mohammad were strong enough to strike others, however, he force the followers to beat the Jews and the Nazarani and produce these verses:
“Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way.” (9:5)
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his Prophet and strive to make mischief in the land and is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world…” (5:33)

The NEW TESTAMENT has been the law of Christian today, while the Jews are still apply the Old and of course to be more modern than Islam.

So, let us stop the attempts to apply the Sharia Law all over the world via internet, starts from US. We are in the modern era now, when the HUMAN RIGHTS and FREEDOM must prevail, and THE LAW OF LOVE must reign the world.

Peace be with us

Islam is the best religion, everyone will like it if they try to understand the religion according to Quraan and other books of islaam. Islam not alow to bother any person without any reason.

I know that this is very common in the world and this is very scary indeed but not all muslims are like this! There is no need to target ALL muslims! I am a muslim who is absolutely outraged with this and it is inhumane and sick and it goes against every belief and value in Isalm just to point out.

fathia, if this is true, then you need to stand shoulder to shoulder with your christian brothers and fight the radicals among us all...

You are right, but not with only "christian" brothers(and sisters!) but with everyone. And to tell you the truth, I do protest against this with others and help all those who need help, not only muslims. I go to other countries such as indonesia with other aid groups and help women who have been raped by MUSLIM men and help fight against this.

:)
now we have an understanding thank god

lalala, yes, thank God!

Islam is not a terrifying religion and not telling people to kill the other and the killer in islam (who kill one person is like who kill all the man kind )
who kill people in the name of islam is not really muslims or not understand this religion .
if you do not know about islam do not talk about it or just learn about it first
http://www.islamia.com/what_is_islam.htm
http://discover.islamway.com/