huh? is this a joke? i didnt know there was such thing as a black republican. This must be a joke. Damn cons.

Janet - i am not even going to respond to your ignorant comments; especially after you said that you were proud of your three abortions. And, since you lost all creditability and just make liberals live up to their ridiculous reputations, my only advice to you is to lay off the meds, join a twelve step program, keep your legs closed and find a good man.

Maybe he should read this(He thinks "War sucks):
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=hsn...

"According to these accounts, McCain, whose A4-E Skyhawk was queued up in a line of jets waiting to take off, “wet started” his engine, a prank designed to startle a trailing pilot with a flame of exploding kerosene.
Normally, it’s a harmless, common stunt by “cowboy pilots.” But on this occasion the exploding kerosene caused a six-foot long Zuni rocket under the trailing pilot’s wing to launch across the flight deck.
“[It] ripped through the fuel tank of McCain’s aircraft,” Dickinson writes. “Hundreds of gallons of fuel splashed onto the deck and came ablaze. Then: Clank. Clank. Two 1,000-pound bombs dropped from under the belly of McCain’s stubby A-4 . . . into the fire.”
McCain rolled out of his cockpit onto the deck and ran for his life, Dickinson writes.
“Just then, one of his bombs ‘cooked off,’ blowing a crater in the deck and incinerating the sailors who had rushed past McCain with hoses and fire extinguishers.”
But according to historian Mary Hershberger, writing on the liberal Truthdig.com site, McCain panicked.
“Some of those who were on the Forrestal and other persons familiar with the ordnance told me that because the rocket did not hit McCain’s craft, only actions by the pilot could have caused any bomb to fall from McCain’s Skyhawk,” wrote Hershberger, who in 2005 published a biography, ”Jane Fonda’s War,” advertised as “an antidote to the ‘Hanoi Jane’ myth.”
“These sources . . . who spoke under the condition that they not be publicly identified,” Hershberger wrote, “agree with each other that, if any bomb fell from the McCain airplane, it was because of actions that he took either in error or panic upon seeing the fire on the deck or in his hasty exit from the plane. Two switches in the cockpit of a Skyhawk need to be thrown to drop such a bomb, according to the sources.”
Dont spend your money on this guy(McCain)

@david: Why should we hold McCain responsible for things he did when Obama was eight years old?

Heck, he didnt even do it on purpose. And if he did, it was clearly an anti-war statement because America was fighting an unjust war against the poor people of Vietnam.

I love Mr. Machosauce there. His Matrix-style kung fu battle with Obama ("The Vote Reaper") is a classic. The O-Team is cute, too, if a little long. Its like a history lesson framed by the A-Team.

Some of my favorite conservatives are black conservatives, and not just because they are demonstrating fiercely independent thought when 90% of African-Americans, as a group, vote for Democrats. They also happen to be some of the most brilliant jurists and economists. Thomas Sowell, for example, who will never win the Nobel Price for Economically Hating America. Clarence Thomas is my favorite justice, and writes some of the best opinions, liberal memes about how hes lazy and just sits around eating fried chicken while he has white interns write his opinions not withstanding. I love liberals: not racist, at all, until some Uncle Tom votes for Republicans or expresses conservative viewpoints.

Dave
We all think War Sucks, but it is a necassary evil.

And Janet, well UC said all that is needed to be said.

Clarence Thomas?
For Real?   Uncle Tom is way to polite for that ass.....
id like to see this man on the court...........im sure hes smarter than CT...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/castBio.jhtml?castI...
What Black Man was more conservative than Bernie Mac?

Stix.....
Sure we all know war sux.....but i want someone at the helm with a lick of sense.
Cant wait to see Ollie Stones new flick! (There was another one at the helm with ZERO sense)

And do you still believe McCain?Palin have the stuff to really lead?
Acting tough, and really being tough are 2 entirely different things.....and it is clear John McCain likes to act tough, with his admiral daddy covering for him.  (How many died on the USS FORRESTAL in 1967?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_Fire
(I know, HoBo laughs at Wikipedia......but the facts are not in dispute!)

I like this cat.  He is enthusiastic and articulate.  Most importantly, and I want you cons to hear this, his statements were affirmative.  No tearing down of anyone else.  No accusations or blaming or insults.  Im sure he revels in his uniqueness which is fine with me.  I often compare black republicans to Jews for Jesus.  If you know anything about either group, then you know what I mean.  Hes done more to advance your causes in a little over a minute than any of you so called cons on this blog have done with a million posts.  Good for him.  The rest of you take notes.

If you read the May 15th Prophecy you will see with 100% accuracy God judgment on the Republican party by reason of the CURSE OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION will be fulfilled in November

Dave, is winning a war not a good outcome?  is winning a war with less than 4k casualties not a great thing?  let me know how many military operations of such scope and devastating engagement resulted in LESS loss of our troops?  Yes, war is a terrible thing.  So why would sadam husssein risk it?  he miscalculated and a wild card variable such as 9/11 tipped him over the edge.  It was Saddam Hussein who threatened the Middle East.  it was Al-Qeada who decided to fight in Iraq.  That was a mistake on their part, not ours.  Bush was perfectly correct to say, "bring it on".  And they did.  And we won.  Despite the Democrats, we snatched victory from defeat.

Simon,
I would hardly say that telling desperate people that he would put a 90 day moratorium on foreclosures "affirmative" talk.  And by the way, its just talk.  Dont get excited.
Obama is playing on fear and that is not Presidential in the least.  His "moratorium" will never happen and his talk is foolish at best, destructive at most.

Still waiting on his "ideas" for our Financial mess.  Waiting......


out.

Dave you have raised no facts, just opinion. 

Thats why the media wont run with it.  You will of course because you think innuendo is proof enuf.  Unlike the Kerry "Swift Boat" where there were eye witness accounts to Kerrys manipulations, the Foresstal is all conjecture which only now comes out during an election. 

Only a rube would fall for that one.  Well done Dave, you are that rube.

out.

HoBo....
"Dave, is winning a war not a good outcome?  is winning a war with less than 4k casualties not a great thing? "

If Saddam actually had these weapons Bush/Cheney said he had, his downfall could have come about without U.S. forces being directly involved.  But that would have taken some smarts.   -Something this current administration does not now, or ever has had.
So we have 4,000+ dead U.S. Service Members because a bunch of people elected a jackass for a president 8 yrs. ago.  Sadly for the 4,000, it will soon be rectified my friend.

LOL  May 15th  LOL

Only a person who hasnt read Revelations could believe in it.
It doesnt say anywhere that the anti-Christ is a man.
Or a Muslim.


out.

HoBo....
http://www.archive.org/details/gov.ntis.ava1983...

Why did the Navy produce this movie?
"Casual relaxed attitude......"?
"Somehow a Zuni rocket is triggered...."
Uh, how did the 2 -1,000 lb. bombs fall from McCains Skyhawk?


“Some of those who were on the Forrestal and other persons familiar with the ordnance told me that because the rocket did not hit McCain’s craft, only actions by the pilot could have caused any bomb to fall from McCain’s Skyhawk,”
Call me what you like, my friend....the truth is out there.  McCains erratic behavior has been noted time and again, both during and after his military career, which makes the story more believable than the Swift-Boat bullshit that didnt result in the deaths of 133 Sailors and Marines.
OUT!

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_mccain_crash_five_planes_did_he.html

From Fact Check, on the McCain/Forrestal disaster. 


No "Wet Start"


A special note is in order here. We have seen some baseless claims that McCain was somehow responsible for the Forrestal disaster. One incorrect but widely quoted theory has him triggering the Zuni missile with the exhaust of his own plane by "wet-starting" – deliberately dumping fuel into the afterburner before starting in order to shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. This is a preposterous notion. (cont)

From Fact Check


No "Wet Start"


A special note is in order here. We have seen some baseless claims that McCain was somehow responsible for the Forrestal disaster. One incorrect but widely quoted theory has him triggering the Zuni missile with the exhaust of his own plane by "wet-starting" – deliberately dumping fuel into the afterburner before starting in order to shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. This is a preposterous notion. For one thing, A-4 jets flew at subsonic speeds and were not equipped with afterburners. According to the Military Analysis Network site maintained by the Federation of American Scientists, the A-4 was powered by a "Single, Pratt & Whitney, J-52-P-408A non-afterburning, turbojet engine." The manufacturers description of the aircraft also describes the powerplant as "One 11,187-pound-thrust P&W J52-P408 engine," with no mention of an afterburner.

And while pilots tell us that a “wet start” is possible even without an afterburner, the theory fails for another reason. The tail of McCains plane was pointed over the side of the carrier and away from other planes at the time, and the F4 Phantom fighter that fired the missile was facing McCains plane from the opposite side of the deck, as shown in Caiella’s diagram, in other diagrams, and in Navy film of the fire.

This bogus theory appears to have gotten its start from a report by New York Times reporter R. W. Apple. Jr, who reported on July 31, 2023 – two days after the fire – that the Forrestal’s captain, John K. Beling, believed an “extreme wet start” had created “a thick tongue of flame” that set off the Zuni. Beling did not identify McCain’s plane as the source, however, and said only that the aircraft was “parked near the carrier’s island,” which would have put it far forward and on the opposite side of the flight deck from where McCain’s plane was getting ready to launch. Not usually noted by the conspiracy theorists is that Capt. Beling “repeatedly said that he had been unable fully to sort out the conflicting reports” that circulated on the 5,000-man vessel in the hours after the fire, according to Apple, who also called the wet-start theory “tentative.” In any case, Beling’s early theory was soon dismissed by Navy investigators, who found that the Zuni had been touched off by a stray electrical charge, not by a jet exhaust. Author Freeman summarizes the findings succinctly in in "Sailors to the End:"

Freeman, 2002 (p. 250): The investigation revealed that the rocket (fired) because a freak surge of electricity jumped through the planes system at the moment the pilot switched from the outside electrical generator to the planes internal power system.

And as Caiella also notes in his account, the investigation found that in the wartime pressure to get planes launched quickly crews had not observed two key safety precautions that could have prevented the stray spike of electricity from firing the rocket. The “pigtail” that connects the plane’s wiring to the missile had been plugged in prematurely, before the plane was on the catapult, and a safety pin that also would have prevented the firing also had been removed.

Freeman has posted an item on his own Web site flatly stating that McCain was in no way responsible for the accident. "McCain was never suspected of causing the fire because investigators determined immediately that the rocket misfired from the other side of the flight deck," writes Freeman.

Caiella agrees. He told us: “There is no possible way John McCain could have caused the fire on board the Forrestal. ... McCains only connection with the investigation was as a witness, in both a written deposition shortly after the fire and later in sworn testimony to the board.”

That doesnt stop non-thinkers like Dave to grasp at any straw no matter how unlikely it is to be true. dave, youre so informed!! LOL So easily led .. here boy!! (whistles)


out.

Facts do not matter. It only matters how you feel.   Logic doesnt matter.  it is all baout how you feel.  

It just isnt fair that someone makes moremoney than I do, so Obama is going to take his money and "Spread The Wealth" to us less fortunate.

And ACORN has got a RICO acion filed against them.  Ah, yes those lovbeable "Community Agitators" it is about time

"In his most serious lapse, McCain was "clowning" around in a Skyraider over southern Spain about December 1961 and flew into electrical wires, causing a blackout, according to McCains own account as well as those of naval officers and enlistees aboard the carrier Intrepid. In another incident, in 1965, McCain crashed a T-2 trainer jet in Virginia."
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-avia...
"Clowning around"......just the kind of judgment we DONT need.

Because Johns Daddy was Pacific Fleet Boss kept an aviator with poor judgment on flight status

@simonesdad: "No tearing down of anyone else.  No accusations or blaming or insults.  Hes done more to advance your causes in a little over a minute than any of you so called cons on this blog have done with a million posts. "

Nice post.  Now what video can you show that has done more to advance your (liberal) causes in little over a minute than any of you so-called dems onthis blog have done with a million posts?

Like I said before facts do not matter.   It is against an evil Republican and it is in the  LA Slimes, so it must be true.

@Hobo:


I dunno, I thought the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth was mostly politics, selective memory, fog-of-war, etc., and entirely irrelevant as a practical matter to the 2004 campaign. I read the book. Didnt really do it for me. A lot of hearsay, some 30 years after the fact. 


Same thing for McCains "Swiftboating". There are real reasons to object to candidates (I sure didnt vote for Kerry), but speculations and 30-years-past-the-due-date "eyewitness" accounts just dont do it for me.

Ameriken.......checking #16, pans out......McCain didnt wet start.  Its kinda like 2004 all over again. A true "war-Hero" gets beat out by an "arm-chair" commando......i just love the irony of it all!

@ Kevin.....  I didnt say the allegations were true about "Swiftboat".  Merely that there were eye witnesses willing to testify to errors.  No such "evidence exists with the "Foresstal" incident.  that was my point.
One meets the standard of controversy, one does not.

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@ Dave......  The irony of it all?  you must mean your willingness to throw as much mud around without checking your facts and then describing yourself as "open minded" to others willing to listen to your rants. 

Is that the irony of which you speak?

And lease dont describe OBAMA as a "Commander".  Hes a waif of a man and my niece could take him out anytime. 

I want to see both candidates medical records too.  Id like a drug test on them both as well.


out.

Anyone with a political ax to grind can make up stories that are aimed at misleading.....
the irony 4 years ago was that a young man served in Vietnam, and another avoided that same service........both were running for president.....
One of them would have gotten us out of this Cluster-F**k in Iraq.
This nation chose the chicken-shit, and now once again we have a choice.

@ David #23, 25........that is why I generally avoid reading the so-called political blogs, and if I do read one, I have to filter what is written. Most do have an ax to grind and have followers who are not interested in finding the truth, but rather who are more interested in proving they are right and the other side wrong. Thus they blindly believe what is being written without thinking through it or researching it.

This is amusing, but arent the Republicans the ones always poking fun at the Democrats parading their celebrity supporters?  Okay, so now, in addition to Chuck Norris and the Cat Scratch Fever guy, you have Zo.  God Bless You (as my mother used to say).  :)


As a liberal Democrat, I think this guy is full of platitudes and I seriously dont get the impression that there is much depth to his opinions, which makes me wonder why you posted it UC.  You seem more intellectually driven than this garbage.


Peace homie.

Thats right Dave.  Anyone can make up stories. 

But it takes folks like you Dave,  who are easily misled, to spread them around as if they were true.

Well done.


out.

The below video demonstrates the exact opposite. You conservatives should learn by intelligent, college educated, open minded people how to open our feeble minds and move into the enlightenmennt of the 21st century. 

Feel the love and acceptance demonstrated by true progressives who have surpassed the hatred and bigotry of the past by welcoming a peaceful march by people of an opposing view. You conservatives can learn from this.......this is moving America to the future, and is change you can believe in. 

youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI&fmt=18

Edit to #29.
Liberals are right.......you white conservatives are closed minded and hateful people.....closed-minded and bigoted toward people who are different from you.  This hate has been demostrated at McCain-Palin speeches.
The below video demonstrates the exact opposite. You conservatives should learn from intelligent, college educated, open minded  people  how to open your feeble minds and move into the hope of the 21st century. 
Feel the love and acceptance demonstrated by true progressives who have surpassed the hatred and bigotry of the past. In the video, they  welcome a peaceful march by people who have different views than they do. You conservatives can learn from this.......learn how to accept someone different form you.  This is moving America to the future, and is change you can believe in. 
youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI&fmt=18

No wonder God has curse the Republican Party, the economy is in the tank and the right want to talk about Ayers, G Wright  and sh!t like that.

Yep # 15, God demands we focus on money, not on character.

Amerikan you would have a point if Ayers or Jeremiah Wright were running for President, they are not!

My point is God has nothing to do with politics, political parties, or economics and does not curse any political party or take sides in politics and elections. 

Again, God isnt sitting up there deciding who is the holy political party and who should win the election.

God is about individual lives, not politics.

"My point is God has nothing to do with politics, political parties, or economics and does not curse any political party or take sides in politics and elections. "

Tell that to Pharaoh!

"Again, God isnt sitting up there deciding who is the holy political party and who should win the election."

Do you think Saul got that memo when God chose David to be King of Israel?
"God is about individual lives, not politics."

Yes God is about Individual lives, but why do you think he coming to set of his Kingdom?  (to show man how to run perfect government!)

@ 15 so this all means God endorses Obama?

May 15
What the hell are you talking about.   Are you smking crack or something.  You are notmaking any sense.

Pharoah.   That was over 2000 years ago and the Bible is not a history book.

Saul.   Again WTF???

      Yes God is about Individual lives, but why do you think he coming 
     to of his Kingdom?  (to show man how to run perfect government!)
Huh  That does not make any sense.  God has never run a government and never will.

"15 so this all means God endorses Obama?"

ameriken not necessarily he just happen to be the benefactor of God curse of the Bush Administration
"Pharoah.   That was over 2000 years ago and the Bible is not a history book."

Stix are you crazy as well as stupid, even scholars that dont believe of the spiritualism of the bible recognize it historicity

you say "God has never run a government and never will."
obviously you dont believe in the God of the bible but I have news for you

Christ has die, Christ has risen, Christ will come again to set up his kingdom

That can be Good News or Bad News depending on your belief of him   

You must be smoking Crack. Any historian that believes that the Bible is a hostory book shold be shunned from doing any kind of historical studies in the future. Even Theologians do not believe inthe history ofthe Bible. 


Are we waiting for the 12th Imam also.   Geez

I wiould really like tknow exactly when God has run anything???  Where is it in th Bible that God ran a government????


Belief in God is personal and shold have no bearing on politics.  

I think I just got dumber reading you answers.

OMG  so G*D is a commie?  Say it isnt so?!!?


out.

"Are we waiting for the 12th Imam also."

The answer to that question can be found in reading this link to the post titled 

The Beast,The Anti-Chirst and the Little Horn (the Hidden Imam)

harrysmom: "This is amusing, but arent the Republicans the ones always poking fun at the Democrats parading their celebrity supporters?"

Well, McCain did run that celebrity ad. I thought it was stupid, myself. Most Republican do poke fun at what deep thinkers like Lindsey Lohan and Matt Damon have to say about politics, because we think they dont know what they are talking about, and that they have mistakenly assumed they have some special gift of political insight because they are celebrities.

May 15th Prophecy: bad news. End of the world has come and gone. Your trapped in an endless post-apocolyptic dream. Sorry you missed the real apocolypse, it was a doozy.

Ameriken, Stix: May I humbly suggest that you dont feed the troll. Even if hes serious, there is never any dialog with end-of-the-worlders.

Ever tried to chat with a Member of the First Church of Climate Change about Global Warming and the Great Coming Floods? Same thing, basically.

@ Kevin, yeah, I know better, but for some reason I was compelled to try. Guess I just couldnt avoid looking at the train wreck.

@ Kevin # 42 "Sorry you missed the real apocolypse, it was a doozy."

When did this happen? I mustve dozed off.    :-[)

Who is this David Walters mental midget? Someone needs a firewall on his brain to block the spam that comes out of his mouth.  Im just curious, i love following politics but the one thing ive learned since i was a kid watching Reagan on TV, as much as we choose one side or the other, the bottom line is that none of these aristocratic, blue blood, ivy league bottom feeding law school flunkies give a damn about any of us.  I wish osama had done us a favor and spared the twin towers and flew into the house and senate while it was in session.  You all think that while these jokers are "spreading the wealth" around to the welfare bums and illegal aliens flooding this country like an overflowing toilet that they will give up their houses, cars, posh lifestyle, or planes pools and million dollar vacations. NO! I am a conservative because im not a fucking socialist, liberal stooge who thinks im better than everyone else and I can save the country from themselves, I want the federal government to leave me the fuck alone and stop trying to micro-manage the flock of lazy bastards who want it all, but want me to foot the bill.  I think its time to throw some tea in the harbor again folks, this is absurd

I am a "true" conservative because i want government to play a small role in my life and taxes should be paid mostly to protect our country and build infrastructure.  the social security system is stupid and needs to be abolished.  people should be responsible and save for their own futures and not rely on the government to do it for them.  of course, most take out more than they put in.  Our vets need to be taken care of and maybe a few others but that should be it.  I dont believe in helping folks who dont help themselves.  People need to gain a skill and work!  Taxes should be very low and everyone and i mean everyone should pay them even if it is 1% of their income.  Our soldiers are fighting for our country and not everyone is helping to pay their share of the taxes to buy their equipment, food, etc.  it is ridiculous.  people love to blame others for their situations and are asking for handouts.  Everyone should be able to manage their own affairs including how many children they have.  if you cant afford to educate your children, dont have them and dont look for others to give you money to do what you should be doing as a parent.  i am a republican because i believe in personal responsibility and a free market economy.  If everyone took responsibility for themselves this economy would not be in the mess it is in now.  Of course, the democrats love to blame the republicans even though their buddy Barney Frank and others were in the thick of things.  Washington as a whole is to blame.

...because I understand that if prices are already high, that taxes make them higher, not lower. 

www.offeringcommonsense.blogspot.com

..because I believe that a "baby killer" isnt a military draftee who fought tooth and nail to defend freedom abroad, but rather someone who votes for partial-birth abortions and for not requiring doctors to actually do any real doctoring when a child survives. 

www.offeringcommonsense.blogspot.com

oh dear me,  jd... norrish...

someone else, Norrish... apparently not as smart as you are:


In Philly, Conservative Talk Radio Host Backs Obama
October 17, 2023 3:44 PM
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On his talk show on WPHT today, conservative Philadelphian Michael Smerconish endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
Listen HERE.
Smerconish did so by reading a couple paragraphs from his pending op-ed in the Philadelphia Inquirer.
"I’ve decided," he said. "My conclusion comes after reading the candidates’ memoirs and campaign platforms, attending both party conventions, interviewing both men multiple times, and watching all primary and general election debates.
 
"John McCain is an honorable man who has served his country well. But he will not get my vote. For the first time since registering as a Republican 28 years ago, I’m voting for a Democrat for president.
"I may have been an appointee in the George H.W. Bush administration, and master of ceremonies for George W. Bush in 2004, but last Saturday I stood amidst the crowd at an Obama event in North Philadelphia," says the Republican.
Smerconish has given us some more from his op-ed: 
"Terrorism. The candidates disagree as to where to prosecute the war against Islamic fundamentalists. Barack Obama is correct in saying the front line in that battle is not Iraq, it’s the Afghan-Pakistan border. Osama bin Laden crossed that border from Tora Bora in December 2001, and we stopped pursuit. The Bush administration outsourced the hunt for bin Laden and, instead, invaded Iraq.
 
"No one in Iraq caused the death of 3,000 Americans on 9/11. Our invasion was based on a false predicate, so we have no business being there, regardless of whether the surge is working. Our focus must be the tribal-ruled FATA region in Pakistan. Only recently has our military engaged al-Qaeda there in operations that mirror those Obama was ridiculed for recommending in August 2007.
 
"Last spring, Obama told me, It’s not that I was opposed to war [in Iraq]. It’s that I felt we had a war that we had not finished.  Even Sen. Joe Lieberman conceded to me just last Friday that the headquarters of our opposition, our enemies today, is the FATA."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/in-philly-conse.html

Who the hell is this guy?????   I never heard of him before

Never heard of him and what does it matter who he is voting for.  Is that supposed to change my mind?????

"But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and fear and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life." 1944 John Flynn, Old right republican

Bush has paved the way for the right to move us into a facist state first, with the Patriot Act and now privatzation of  profits and socialiation of the debt of his rich cronies. And you think you should be scared of the Left???

clintusmaximus!
-Thanx for setting me straight....
But what is this:
"these aristocratic, blue blood, ivy league bottom feeding law school flunkies"......you are referring to?  My midget brain just does not comprehend, so please fill me in!
But i guess Ron Reagan wasnt one of these Blue Bloods you refer to.
He had the good sense to trash that silly President Carters energy plan:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps...

.....Yeah Ron Reagan sure put us on the right track of high consumption of Middle Eastern Oil!  Thank GOD for Mental Giants such as he!

Uh......DC, last I remember, the Democrats didnt fight Bush were largely for the bailout bill and republicans were against it. Get off the fascist crap. And what makes you so sure that Obama doesnt fit that description "its leaders will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion"?

As for patriotism.......remember Joe Biden telling us it was patriotic to pay our taxes to the government? He didnt say it was patriotic to give to each other and help the less fortunate.......it was patriotic to give to the government.

When fascism comes, it always comes as government vs the citizenship who trust them. Doesnt matter if liberal or conservative....our founding fathers warned us to always keeps the government limited and in check.

What are you doing to keep the government limited and in check?

While you and some others from both sides may want to point the fingers at each other, remember that Republicans voted against Bush, while Democrats joined Bush in shoving this bill down our throats while the people objected. Both McCain and Obama were part of this. So, under your descriptions, Democrats are as fascist as Bush for helping to socialize business. 

Be wary of your own leaders, be it republican or democrat and dont believe they truly have your own interests at heart.  That is when you open the door to fascism or any other oppressive form of government.

Here is the proper link to the post The Time of Jacob Troubles

I am a conserative because i can add.  Obama wants to give 95% of americans tax cuts and 5% will see tax increases.  lets see..... .95 + .05 = 100%.  now where does Obama account for those who dont pay taxes???   hmmmmmmmm!  maybe he is fudging the numbers??????  the truth is 40% dont pay taxes and they will get a welfare check.  now how does that create jobs???????  im continuing to talk about this because democrats dont seem to give a damn that if Obama is elected and his plans are passed, WE WONT HAVE JOBS!  of course, maybe the democrats are the ones who dont have jobs and are waiting for their checks?????????  here is some news for ya--if we dont have jobs, you dont have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$!  GET IT NOW?

stix, its quite evident that no actual facts will alter your poor effort to educate yourself on issues and who is actually saying what.  you are content to repeat known lies and frequent only sites that support them.  theres nothing wrong with being conservative, theres a whole lot wrong with lies and the participation of forwarding them.
you can stand and wave the flag in front of all of your comments all you wish but just once it would be refreshing to see that you actually have any understanding of what that flag represents - the flag is not whats sacred, the principles behind that which it represents are what we hold dear.  principles that you are constantly tossing aside while you proclaim your "Americanism."

Toe

What the hell are you talking about???   Reaslly I want to know what the hell are saying

You are the one drinking Obamas cool aide not me.

more hate:


Oct 20th, 2008 | CULLOWHEE, N.C. -- Police at Western Carolina University and wildlife officials were investigating the discovery early Monday of a dead bear cub draped with a pair of Barack Obama campaign signs.
Leila Tvedt, associate vice chancellor for public relations, said Monday night that maintenance workers found the 75-pound bear cub shot to death in front of the schools administration building at the entrance to campus. The Obama yard signs were stapled together and placed over the bears head, Tvedt said.
The bear had been shot in the head, Tvedt said.
"Western Carolina University deplores the inappropriate behavior that has led to this troubling incident," Tvedt said. "We cannot speculate on the motives of the people involved nor who those people might be. Campus police are cooperating fully with authorities to investigate this matter."
University police called in state Wildlife Resources officials to remove the body and help in the investigation.

Whoever did this is sick and needs to be punished.  there is no need for any of this kind of crap.  In no way does the idiots that did this portray what conservatives think.  These people are sick and should not be tolerated by anyone.

Obama is going back to Hawaii to see his grandma and i wish her the best and will keep her and Obama in my prayers and my thoughts.

Agree!

The film "Deliverance" was filmed partly in Jackson Co. N.C. (where Cullowhee is located)
and many "locals" were used as extras,
-i was a student there at the time....

Amen!  Zo for President.  Im not voting for Obama!  Wow, Im a conservative not racist.

hello.

Barack Obama has another endorcement:


the following comments were posted on the internet for all to see: 

Aalam Al-Jabir 10:32AMOct 31st 2008


Praise ALLAH that Brother Obama is so closely associated with A.C.O.R.N. This fine organization will help tremendously in getting the vote out for our Brother!!
                          
Praise ALLAH that Brother Barack Hussein Obama has such great associates and friends as Reverend Jeremiah Wright, William Ayres, Tony Rezko, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Rashid Khalidi, Father Michael Pfleger, Raila Odingo, Khalid Al Monsour and Nadhmi Auchi. These fine men show his superb judgment and character in choosing them as friends and associates. I hope that he will offer them roles in an Obama administration. This would be a great achievement for the United States of America and the world.


I urge White America to vote for Brother Barack Obama. He will right the wrongs of the past, make reparations for past wrongs and erase the great stain of slavery and injustice on this country. I believe this will go a long way in helping to repay the debt owed to black people and help America shed it’s guilt.


When our brother Barack Hussein Obama is president we will pray that he stops illegal Hispanic Immigrants from coming to this country. We need to expand legal immigration for people from AFRICA and the MIDDLE EAST who are hard working and want to come to this country for a better life.


We need additional social programs to stimulate the economy not more jails. He can use the president’s power to pardon and release the unjustly convicted men and return them to their families. These people will benefit the economy. Our brother Barack Obama will do these things. ALLAH willing.


I hope that the new President, Barack Hussein Obama will help the real estate market by the government buying foreclosed homes. We should move our people out of the ghetto projects and gift them a house in a regular neighborhood as part of wealth redistribution. This would make life better for all. White and black people could live side by side. This would be a great achievement. ALLAH willing


Joe Biden should not have told everyone that Brother Obama will be tested within six months of his presidency. What was he thinking? That was supposed to be a secret, Brother Joe!!


It will do this country good to see a BLACK man on the evening news everyday as their president instead of the racist TV shows like cops portraying black men as criminals. This country will finally start rebuilding AFRICA, helping our African brothers who suffer because of hundreds of years of white oppression.


Now do we really think that Barack Obama shares the interests and the concerns of the United States and Isreal?
Are we getting the message here?
Get out and VOTE...

Tomorrow All of you will see just how 100% the May 15th Prophecy really is!

STIX,

I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU THINK MOST OF WHAT IS WRITTEN HERE IS PURE BULLSHIT. GOOD FOR YOU!

THANK GOD; WHATEVER TEAM HE HAPPENS TO BE ROOTING FOR THIS WEEKEND - WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE WITH MOST OF HIS BRAIN STILL INTACT. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE THAT, JUST LOOK AT THE LAST 69 COMMENTS IN THIS THREAD. 

I KNOW I SHOULD NEVER VOICE AN OPINION LIKE THIS...HERE AT UC. UNFORTUNATELY, IT WILL NOT MATTER WHAT I SAY. WHO MIGHT YOU THINK I AM, DAVID WALTERS IN DISGUISE?

THEREFORE, I AM PROUD ONCE AGAIN, TO INTRODUCE TO YOU...STRAIGHT FROM LICHTENSTEIN...LETS HEAR IT FOR....................

THE DIXIE FUCKING CHICKS!

URGENT REPORT FOR UC ADMINISTRATOR
NOT NECESSARY TO PRINT THIS...JUST READ IT.

TO: WHOM IT MAY CONCERN AT UC
FROM: YOU KNOW ME. I AM THE ONE STILL TRYING TO GET MY SPELL CHICKEN TO WORK. SO FAR NOW IT IS WORKINK QUITE GOOD.
SUBJECT: THE UNTIMELY SUDDEN DEATH OF A THREAD.
DATE: DECEMBER 18, 2022

DEAR AND MOST HONORABLE SIRS,

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU MIGHT GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO THE DEATH OF THIS THREAD. AS I AM SURE YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE SPACE UN-USED IS MONEY FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET. THIS THREAD STARTED ON OCTOBER 13 AND ENDED ON NOVEMBER 3. MY COMMENT TODAY DOES NOT COUNT, ONLY BECAUSE I KNEW THE SITE WAS DEAD...THEREFORE I COULD GET JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ACROSS THE BORDER.
SO, YOU HAVE WASTED SPACE FOR 45 DAYS. THAT IS A MAJOR PROBLINK FOR YOU. I CHECKED SOME OF THE OTHER THREADS. SAME THING. YOU ARE DYING.
WOULD YOU LIKE US TO MOVE YOU TO A HOME? WE CAN DO THAT. BUT...THERE IS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE, ONE THAT WILL MAKE YOU MONEY. HERE ARE MY INSTRUCTIONS. FOLLOW THEM EXACTLY AS I SAY. IF YOUR PROFITS DONT START GOING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH, YOU CAN KILL ME. IF THE OTHERWISE, YOU PAY ME $35.00. DEAL? OK. 

ONCE AGAIN, I CANNOT POSSIBLY STRESS THE NEED FOR AN ADMINISTRATOR TO LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS NOT ONE OF MY LATE NIGHT INSANITIES.  

HEY, YOU HAVE A NICE FIRM HANDSHAKE THERE.
HERE IS WHAT YOU DO:
1. CLOSE DOWN THIS THREAD IMMEDIATELY.
2. CLOSE DOWN ALL THREADS HAVING SIMILAR PROBLEMS.
3. BEGIN ONE NEW THREAD. MAKE SURE THE OPENING ARTICLE IS BORING, INNACURATE AND TOTALLY STUPID.
4. MAKE SURE THE SECOND COMMENT IS SNEAKINGLY SARCASTIC.
5. SIT BACK AND COUNT YOUR MONEY.

OH MY GOD! I FORGET THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL THINGS. YOU MUST LISTEN. DO NOT BOTHER TO PRINT. READ ONLY. CLASSIFIED. WORSE, UN-CLASSIFIED. OKAY NOW...HERE IT IS IN BOLD PRINT. TREAT IT LIKE YOU WOULD YOUR BIBLE. REVERE IT. REMIND OTHERS OF IT. UPHOLD IT NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF OPPOSITION YOU MAY EXPERIENCE. IT IS UNLIKELY THAT YOU WILL GET ANY OPPPOSITION. DO THIS AND YOUR PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED, COMPLETELY.

DO NOT ALLOW ML SMITH ON YOUR SITE.
DO NOT PRINT ANY COMMENTS FROM ML SMITH OR ANYONE NAMED HARRIET. LOOK OUT FOR HER. SHE IS DANGEROUS.

THIS IS MY LAST COMMENT OF THE NIGHT. HOPEFULLY, THIS THREAD WILL BE GONE.

ONE
FINAL
PIECE
OF 
INFORMATION

http://ml-Smith.blogspot.com

ML smith . .. please leave.

This might be my ego talking but this guy is an egoic idiot.  Most of his ideals are mine.  But it is not impressive to parade yourself as a better individual because of it.

UC...oh my!  Janet. Darlin.  Please, a word of advice. Take it or leave it.


When you do something that is harmful to others, dont boast. It is so demeaning.  


If I burp, in public, Im embarrassed. Thats just me.  Cant help it. The way I was raised.  It doesnt mean I am bad or imperfect, or trying to be something or someone better than others, it just means that the way I was reared, it is inappropriate, unacceptable behaviour, to me.


Have you ever, ever, seen a film, a real, life, film of what is done to a human being, a precious, little, harmless baby, when an abortion takes their life, right out of their safe little haven?


If you had, you could never, boast, brag, exault yourself, to such a position.  If you do not agree with this, to me, only to me, that seems to be no better than the terrorist, who behead, innocent victims that are kidnapped and beheaded.


My God child.   They are torn from limb to limb.  It is worse than a horror flick.  


I am not, I repeat, I am not judging you.   Thats not my place or authority.


But the blood of your children are crying out from the Throne of god, to our Heavenly Father:
  
How long, How long Father, will we have to wait?   I could tell you my story, but I wont, not here.  I can tell you this, your little ones, who you decided did not deserve a chance to make their own decisions, to have a life, to have a chance, to live, is on you.  Their blood is on your hands.


If you think, that is something to boast about, my heart breaks for not only them, but for you.  That to me, seems so, inhuman.  So, unnatural.  So, cruel, cold, hamasish. 


I cant help it.  Its the way I feel.  Who am I?  No one. My opinion means nothing to others.  I have to live with my feelings, my thoughts, my decisions and the outcome, was from my "free will"


God bless those little souls who have gone to be with their Heavenly Father.  Thank God, He has shown them the Love you were incapable of showing them or comprehending.