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Barack Obama Endorses Communist Punk Che Guevara

February 19th, 2008 Urban Conservative

Che Guevara Picture in Obama’s Campaign OfficeOf course, this hasn’t received any mainstream media attention whatsoever. 

So, we all know that Barack Obama already has an issue with wearing the American Flag on his jacket; and with putting his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. When isolated, these two issues may seem insignificant but when you look at it holistically, there is a huge problem. On a more important note, can anyone tell me why in the hell is he sporting a Cuban flag with a picture of Communist punk (and murderer) Che Guevara on the wall of his Houston campaign office? Where in the hell is the outrage from the mainstream media? 

Now let’s get something straight. I am very patriotic. No, I don’t have an American flag outside of my house or on the back of my car. But I do love this country and would die to protect the freedom of our citizens.  But, can someone please tell me why Obama – who is running for the highest office in America – the freakin Commander in Chief – who is supposed to protect the freedom of American Citizens – cannot display an ounce of patriotism within his campaign? Maybe it’s because he has none!  The more I read about this idiot of candidate, the more I am sickened.  Che Guevara was a murderous-scum-of-a-terrorist who killed, killed and then killed some more.  He helped start a concentration camp where homosexuals and others considered undesirable people were to be confined as nothing more than slaves. Okay, maybe this is a little extreme, but does Obama endorse enslaving homosexuals?

Image of Che Guevara in Obamas Houston Campaign Office
Source: Fox

Image of Che Guevara in Obamas Houston Campaign Office
Source: Fox

Image of  Obama during National Anthem
Source: Newsbusters

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75 Responses to Barack Obama Endorses Communist Punk Che Guevara

  1. Well - not sure if he would "endorse enslaving homosexuals" since there was an allegation that he - himself - had sex with Larry Sinclair. If true...Obama is done.

    February 19th, 2008 11:07 am Richard
  2. Would it make a difference if I were to point out that this was *not* "his Houston campaign office" but a volunteer office outside the control of his campaign? And that his campaign has distanced itself from them, denouncing it as offensive to offensive to "Americans of all backgrounds"?

    February 19th, 2008 11:30 am AF
  3. well, of course he is going to deny it...haha.

    February 19th, 2008 11:39 am Richard
  4. The truth is, no one will be able to tell you why Obama "Can't" show patriotism, because is simply isn't true. Look at his campaign logo for one, is resembles the American flag, why does he need a pin? But I love the fact that a hand over the heart is that big of a deal to you guys. Doesn't it make your argument a little desperate for talking points?

    February 19th, 2008 11:54 am Justin W.J.
  5. @ Justin

    It's a matter of principle; something you obviously know nothing about.

    February 19th, 2008 11:56 am Urban Conservative
  6. Some people would also point out that as a member of the media yourself, even if only as a blog, it would be a matter of principle to check your facts before making claims.

    Secondly, seeing as the Obama campaign has informed the public that they have no control over a volunteer campaign office, the issue becomes less about Obama's supposed patriotism and more about the willingness of some people to believe anything regardless of evidence.

    For my two cents, I believe that patriotism is more than making simple gestures such as wearing lapel pins or making a specific salute while the National Anthem plays. Patriotism runs deeper than that, and frankly I find it alarming that such token displays have been granted such undue importance in today's culture.

    February 19th, 2008 2:07 pm Felonious
  7. @ Felonious

    I am not the media. I am one man with an opinion. And...just because Obama says that it wasn't his campaign office, doesn't mean he is telling the truth. IT was Fox that reported it, not me.

    And yes, I agree with you that patriotism is much deeper than lapel pins or saluting, etc. but it seems to me like he is trying to make a statement. Otherwise, what's the big deal with putting your hand over your heart?

    February 19th, 2008 2:37 pm Urban Conservative
  8. I love that picture you have of Barack and Che. Great photoshopped effects. Can hardly see the edges around Obama.

    February 19th, 2008 9:03 pm Phillip Lorenz
  9. In my previous life, I was a graphic designer.

    February 19th, 2008 9:53 pm Urban Conservative
  10. He is the "media darling". He must be perfect! Is this reverse discrimination?
    Is it a fear of not being perceived as politically correct?

    Whether he knew about the flag being there or not it certainly shows a slice of who his supporters are.

    I think Obama is a VERY angry and negative black man. His wife is just as bad. He certainly knows how to capitalize on the "Bush Derangement Syndrome". I guess people don't believe it could actually get worse...

    February 20th, 2008 9:29 am Connie
  11. Connie says: "I guess people don't believe it could actually get worse..."
    Yes, it can get worse, with people who's greatest concerns seem to be who isn't making the proper salute! petty.
    We need a commander in chief who can think, not merely one who is politically correct(in the right-wing'd sense)......because the present commander-in-chief has left a big pile of shit for all us americans to clean up!

    February 20th, 2008 10:19 am davidwwalters
  12. @ davidwwalters

    And, who do you think that commander in chief should be? And, what the heck do you mean by politically correct (in a right wing'd sense)?

    February 20th, 2008 10:57 am Urban Conservative
  13. ........Politically correct in a right wined sense? That would be mindlessly harping on what our so-called leaders should wear on their lapels, or should mouth, like god bless america, or we better not cut&run.........

    The next Commander-in-Chief is going to have to be a man who is able to do lots of negotiating.......someone who has those ephemeral traits such as being able to command presence at a meeting of leaders, as well as hold his pee.....
    Someone who can make unattractive choices.......and of the 2 likely candidates(McCain/Obama)......i'll opt for a change, 'cause the policies we have been following for these past 8 yrs are bringing us to hell. Whoever the next president we have though had better be ready for some tough times, thanks to the mindset that has brought the Mother of all Cluster-fucks to:
    our foreign policy, our military, to events in the middle east.........and i can go on.......economy?
    The Commander-in-Chief needs to lead, not inspiring people to work for a common goal.
    So who Inspires you?

    February 20th, 2008 12:13 pm davidwwalters
  14. LOL…that’s not being politically correct. It’s about loving your country, despite its mistakes.

    You will opt for change? Obama talks a lot about this and, frankly, I am getting sick of it because there is no substance to his message. Change is indeed a good thing; but it could mean anything. He…like most democrats don’t have a plan.

    Who inspires me? No one currently running for office on either side. But I am voting for McCain because he will serve us better from a foreign policy perspective.

    February 20th, 2008 12:27 pm Urban Conservative
  15. Urban.......right now, many people do seem inspired by Obama, and in way i haven't seen since.......Reagan?
    And inspiration is the key ingredient in leadership........getting people to do impossible things('s why we have combat leaders, not combat managers). And right now, we have an opportunity to choose a leader; not a tired, old repeat the mistakes of current administration........and like i said, it ain't gonna be easy for whoever that may be. But someone who inspires&can think well on his feet .........would be better suited for the foreign policy endeavors that loom ahead for the next Commander-in-Chief.....and that ain't John McCain.

    February 20th, 2008 1:16 pm davidwwalters
  16. If B H Obama were to be elected we can look forward to at least four years of "obamanation" - this man(?) has more contempt for the military than slick willie - and you gotta go so to beat that sub-standard.
    Bill and Hill treated the White House Military Aides as though they were domestics - Hill insisted they carry her luggage.
    With BHO in the White House we will have as a Commander in Chief someone who actually hates this country -- one only has to point to his wife's recent comments about her "pride" in America to realize this guy is really the Manchurian candidate and we as a nation are going to be in a world of hurt.

    February 20th, 2008 2:25 pm hcapper
  17. davidwwalters -- interesting to note you do not see a literate need to capitalize words like "God" or "Americans".
    Guess one should be glad you capitalized Reagan. A capitalization well deserved.

    February 20th, 2008 2:31 pm hcapper
  18. @ DavidWalters

    February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm Urban Conservative
  19. @ DavidWalters


    Jim Jones and Hitler were also inspirational and charismatic leaders and look what happened?

    As i said before, there is no substance to his message; and people are going to sick of the "we need change, change and change" speeches.

    February 20th, 2008 2:36 pm Urban Conservative
  20. hcapper......thanx for better defining politically correct in a right-winged sense(no caps on god.......)
    And Urban.......we're discussing (sane) bad, i thought that was a given.
    No one has yet suggested Obama is not sane(yet).
    As to lack of substance.........he seems very clear about ending our experience in iraq ASAP.

    February 20th, 2008 4:23 pm davidwwalters
  21. Where to even start...
    Obama is a master at manipulation. This Country has become soft and so obviously desperate. Most American's have no clue as to how bad things can really be. Ask someone who was lucky enough to get out of S Korea in the '70's.
    While I agree many issues need immediate attention, empty promises, bigger Government and spending hundreds of billions of dollars on entitlement programs is not going to "fix" the problems of the day. This kind of "change" isn't worth the amount I have in my pocket.
    I have no doubt that our enemies are immensely enjoying this display of complete desperation. They aren't so soft, they know what hard times really are.
    Anyone who believes Obama will have the same effect when he "sits down with" Achmadenijad as he does on American's is dreaming. None of those sorts will even begin to be so easily deceived or charmed by his "charisma". We are like sitting prey.
    I have spoken with so many legal immigrants that have come here, and with hard work, had the opportunity to prosper. They see what's happening so clearly. This is a quote from a recent conversation, "This is not my Country, but I was lucky enough to be allowed to come here, and prosper, what is wrong with people that they don't see the freedom and opportunity they have...I took hand-outs from no one, what I have I worked hard for, I was allowed to earn it...this freedom should not be taken for granted".
    Do all these people really want to lose the opportunity that free speech and capitalism bring?
    This is not a rock is our future.

    February 20th, 2008 5:23 pm Connie
  22. Connie, you may well turn out to be right...Obama may turn out to be nothing more than a manipulator. We'll don't know how he'd or McCain react to a 9-11.....or a cuban missile crisis. We do know, however, that John McCain identifies with the disastrous Jr. Bush's policies in iraq.......and we all knows where "........bring 'em on!" or "Mission Accomplished" takes me THAT was idle talk(dangerous to boot!). But i do have hope.....
    No, we don't need more of the same ideas that have predominated the executive branch. We can begin the change by withdrawal from iraq, which Obama has pledged to do while Mccain sees a hundred year war!

    February 20th, 2008 7:10 pm davidwwalters
  23. David:
    Unfortunately we don't have any choice that I would prefer at this point.
    So...My theory, which I admit may be wrong.
    First and foremost, McCain has seen and experienced the horrors of war first hand. If you observed him when he was endorsed by Romney and Bush Sr, his body was very rigid, he was fidgety, blinking, minimal if any eye contact, it made me uncomfortable watching him. On the other hand, when endorsed by Schwarzenegger and Kennedy he was jovial and appeared on top of the world.
    He has said on multiple occasions, never let your enemies know your weakness or your plan. I don't believe he intends to remain in Iraq at the level we have been and I really don't believe he agrees with how this war has been handled. He has said as much. He is in a precarious situation as he needs the Republican base and the Independents. He also will not let Iraq know what is true intentions are. He has seen too much. Too many politicians will do or say anything for votes, I honestly believe he loves this Country and will not tip his hand to the enemy.
    He is the closest we have to a Moderate choice and I believe the lessor of the evils on several levels.

    February 21st, 2008 6:01 am Connie
  24. David,

    You are right about the Iraq war being a mistake. But - leaving abrubtly now as commie Obama wants to do is complete folly. I guess you don't understand Obama's foreign policy plans and how disastrous they are. It's not just the Middle East; he wants to befriend Chavez, Castro and even the Iranian leader (can't spell his name). Can't you liberal idiots see this will NEVER work? Obama couldn't even name ONE Latin American leader! And this man wants to be president? He has commie posters of "el Che" in his offices, his wife admits she has never been proud to be an American. I am a lifelong republican who admitedly is very disillusioned with Bush, but do you want to go from bad to MUCH WORSE? Obama is a MISTAKE!!!! Go Hillary or McCain! Anybody but this anti-american commie lover....

    February 21st, 2008 8:39 am angryqban
  25. angryqban.......why exactly is diplomacy a complete folly? "You are right about the Iraq ..... But - leaving abruptly now as commie Obama wants to do is complete folly." Actually, i do understand Obama's policy.......i have no gripe with Castro, or Chavez, though i do understand many Cuban-Americans do hate Castro. But that's not our(america's)fight.....
    -just as iraq is not our fight.
    No, it will not get much worse with an Obama as president, as long as he institutes a policy where the usa is not in the "nation building" business.
    .....and somehow Connie, McCain may be construed as a moderate.......but the evil
    would be........ to remain in that region. Bring the troops home NOW!

    February 21st, 2008 1:46 pm davidwwalters
  26. "But I do love this country and would die to protect the freedom of our citizens."

    Apparently those freedoms don't include what you wear, what religious beliefs you have, or whom you share a bed with.

    Can you provide a list of which freedoms you would die to protect? Then it would be useful to also provide lists of things you would only sprain an ankle for ... or just might nod in general support of?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

    February 21st, 2008 4:17 pm Suburban Moderate
  27. David,

    I never said diplomacy is complete folly. However, islamic extremists cannot be dealt with in a diplomatic way. Most sensible folks (both republican and democrat) can see that. If we leave Iraq now, it will become a breeding ground for terrorists. Is that what you want?

    And you say you have no gripe w/Fidel or Chavez? They are self-proclaimed enemies of the US. Chavez in particular has gone out of his way to hurt us, and is planting seeds that will grow into anti-US establishments all throught the region. Whose side are you on? Obama was asked recently to name three Latin American leaders he admires. He could not even name ONE! Is a man who cannot even name three LA leaders (an area in which our foreign policy has suffered under Bush) a good choice for President?

    Plus - this whole thing with Obama idolizing Che Guevara really bothers me (and it should bother you, too). Che hated the US, capitalism, and democracy. He wrote extensively about his hatred of the US. And this man's poster and Cuban flag are posted in his campaign offices? And his wife's anti-American comments really bother me too.

    I guess you liberal types aren't bothered by all this...

    Obama appears to me to be a anti-u

    February 22nd, 2008 3:38 am angryqban
  28. " In Obama's book, "Dreams From My Father," he repeatedly refers to his friend and adviser as "Frank."
    "The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several Communist front organizations," Kincaid said."

    From: WorldNetDaily

    I don't like to copy/paste, but didn't feel I could capture this if I didn't.
    It's a long way to November, much can change. If you look at the polling data in the past it is very apparent that what may be true in the Spring looks very different by November.
    I think Obama will need to answer a lot of questions.

    February 22nd, 2008 8:52 am Connie
  29. Connie,

    That is indeed very interesting. Why can't everyone who has been smitten by Obama see through all this BS? I hope you are right and things DO change by November. I really think Obama is at least very dangerous, if not evil (all you far-left liberals can laugh all you want). What really pisses me off is that the media is conveniently ignoring the Guevara flag, Michele Obama's "not proud to be an American" gaffe and the fact that although he talks a good talk, his message has no substance. Sure - he is an excellent speaker, debater, and is very charismatic (but so was Hitler). Going further, the leftist media in this country is already piling on McCain for his alleged wrong-doing. Of course, this is the same leftist media that didn't care about Bill Clinton's transgressions and perjury. If Obama is elected President, he should thank the media.

    February 22nd, 2008 9:18 am angryqban
  30. Angryqban wrote: "I never said diplomacy is complete folly. However, islamic extremists cannot be dealt with in a diplomatic way."
    So, in this "special case" we should suspend any hope of resolving a conflict......? --and i'm not sensible? Why is it, or under what circumstances that we should not, as sensible people think.......that diplomacy should not even tried? i don't know, but i must be crazy, THAT sounds crazy to me(not negotiating)!
    And no, i am not bother'd by Castro, Che......D.Ortega......and i know a bit about them, as i fought them in the 80's. But to me, none of these guys(and Chavez) bother me. i can see how certain fruit companies, or the mafia, or the cia do not like 'em......but that's their problem, not the american public. i had no business training el-salvadorian's, many who have become ms19......but it was my job in the summer '82 at ft.Bragg(i was an M-60MG leadership instructor), now those skills are used on our streets--it's called "blow-Back"!

    February 22nd, 2008 3:55 pm davidwwalters
  31. David:

    I agree, negotiating would be great. But, do you really believe it is possible to negotiate with people who are trained to hate beginning at birth? Based on their behavior, how can they possibly ever be trusted?

    I don't see "hope" with Obama...I see negativism, class warfare and Socialism at best. I see him trying to take guns away from people, and I really think this could lead to significant unrest among American's and conflict we have not seen on this soil any a long time. Not to mention there is no way to pay for everything he talks about.

    I ask...where is the "hope"?

    I will show my ignorance...what is a "ms19", "M-60MG", "blow-Back"?

    February 22nd, 2008 4:58 pm Connie
  32. I came to this blog yesterday vis-a-vis the Bernie Ward story which, as a liberal and a Bay Area native, I've been following closely. From there, I began poking around.

    A couple of things about this place struck me right away: First, I couldn't help but notice that our blog host is as bright as anybody posting on the net today, from the right OR the left--and that, for the most part, the contributing commenters are no intellectual slouches either. In terms of wit, style and literary charm, not to mention basic adherence to the rules of English grammar (!), this blog is no Freeper clone.

    The second thing that struck me is that, for a collection of otherwise intelligent folks, there sure is a lot of disingenuous, sloppy thinking afoot. I can't quite figure it out.

    Witness this very blog post: it would have been so easy for Urban Conservative to check on the veracity of the Obama camp's claim that the office in question was a volunteer effort. It would have been a cinch--not to mention a valuable demonstration of journalistic responsibility, fostering inestimable gratitude and trust from chance visitors and other noobs like me. Maybe you don't realize what tremendous goodwill and legitimacy a simple willingness to sweat a little in pursuit of the facts can lend you. It wouldn't require the sacrifice of a single lick of your partisan fire.

    But rather than conducting the all-important, legitimizing legwork, this really bright guy--who clearly has no difficulty writing and thinking on all six cylinders at once--opts instead to blog about an already-discredited propaganda piece, apparently in a flailing, fruitless attempt to breathe life into a story that was DOA in the first place. What a bizarre waste of time and talent. I'm serious! This is not partisanship talking. This kind of thing--choosing the wrong material from which to riff, however wittily--will get you precisely nowhere.

    By the way, it's not true that Obama is all talk and no plans. What do you say you read his website, eh? His plans are right there for all to see. C'mon man, rather than shadow-boxing with the ghost of Che Guevara, why not attack Obama where he lives, where all good Democrats live--on his policies? Flex some mental muscle; wonk-out a little. There's enough there for any conservative worth his salt to whip himself into politically blogworthy fulminations for months.

    It's not that you're not up to the task. You're lazy, preferring cheap shots and canned talking-points to exercising your noodle and taking a substantive stand. Be an opponent, for God's sake--not a gossipy, irrelevant, paper tiger. Lord knows there's enough of those drifting about in blogospheric obscurity.

    But then, you never promised me a rose garden, much less a con-blog that traffics in anything more useful or timely or pertinent than spectral invocations of that musty old icon of socialistic badassedness, Che G. Outta sight, my brother; thanks for the blast from the past.

    Ability-wise, you're so close to being on the ball here, it's crazy. But as the old saying goes, a miss is as good as a mile.

    Good luck,

    February 22nd, 2008 9:26 pm Heather
  33. Heather:

    "By the way, it's not true that Obama is all talk and no plans."

    So true...Obama's plan...SOCIALISM, though he would prefer Dictatorship.

    It sounds like you are a good little sheep. Sometimes less is more. I hope all that drivel made you feel better.

    February 22nd, 2008 10:17 pm Connie
  34. Connie:
    "I will show my ignorance...what is a "ms19", "M-60MG", "blow-Back"?" bad, it's the MS13 gang(Mara Salvatrucha).....sorry about the typo. In the early 1980's while i was a soldier in Ft.Bragg, soldiers from ElSalvador were being trained by my unit .......There was a nasty civil war going on, and some of the troops we trained ended up as MS13 gang members.......which has been exported to the united states. An M-60 was a machine gun we used at that time......and blow-back is the unintended consequences of an action the case of the usa, we have a penchant for becoming involved in the affairs of other nations to achieve some strategic gain, and many times our actions have a ripple effect far beyond what was anticipated. Take 1953 the usa staged a coup to insert a ruler favorable to us in our struggle against the soviets......1979, the people rose up in disgust at the shah, and siezed our embassy.......the site of cia operations.
    We need a leader---someone able to think more than one move ahead(to use a chess metaphor)......Someone who can arm and equip our troops with up to date, modern weapons, and ALL the accoutrement's of magazines that work, blast resistant vehicles. We can save BILLIONS of dollars by just forgoing 1 Virginia Class Submarine. But you seem so scared of the socialist/commie boogie-man, when it's the capitalist pigs(gee i sound like a red!)that have ruined our country and our otherwise fine military institutions.

    February 22nd, 2008 11:27 pm davidwwalters
  35. What an obnoxious gnat of a remark, Connie. WTF? Why, I've don't think I've ever seen a comment more stark-ravingly empty.

    Seriously, why bother replying if that's all you've got? There's no "there" there. Sometimes less is just...less: insufficient, inferior, lessor-than. You couldn't forego hyperbole for half a second. Apparently, substance is to Connie as water is to witch: to be avoided at all costs.

    Obama is not a socialist any more than Bush is a fascist and neither wants a dictatorship, for the love of God. What infantile twaddle. If you really believe that about Obama--if you weren't joking or exaggerating for effect--then you must be delusional, out of your mind. Here's wishing you a speedy recovery from your affliction.


    February 22nd, 2008 11:46 pm Heather
  36. Heather and David, the world would be a much better place if you both just killed yourselves.

    February 23rd, 2008 10:12 am Jimmy
  37. David,

    I don't believe you can use diplomacy to change the beliefs of Muslim extremists that have been programmed from birth to destroy the infidel. And yes, our foreign policies in the Middle East over the last 80 or so years do give them many reasons to hate us. These people will not rest until we are destroyed - understand that.

    As you probably know, Hugo Chavez has been very busy in Venezuela expropriating US business interests in the name of Socialism. Castro did the same thing in the early sixties. Almost without exception, all the factories, refineries and mines Castro stole from us fell into disrepair and idleness. Chavez is following the same path as Castro. Cuba was once the most advanced country in Latin America. Look at it now. And don't blame their position on the embargo, either. These guys may not bother you, but they do bother many millions of Americans, not just Cuban-Americans. Ahmadinejad probably doesn't bother you either, I suppose?

    February 23rd, 2008 10:19 am angryqban
  38. to the "These people will not rest until we are destroyed - understand that." -- i am sure there are many who would do us ill, however you make it seem as though EVERYONE in that sad region feels the same(hating americans). The purpose of engaging the leaders of an "unfriendly" nation is partly to encourage the idea that perhaps some of the rhetoric about our nation is not correct.
    As far as Chavez and Castro are concerned, and the expropriation of business interests in those countries makes it seem as if my service as a paratrooper was all about being "an enforcer" for business instead of fighting to protect freedom(.......oh, my bad......i was protecting the freedom of business interests to make obscene profits!) My question is: what has exxon/mobile done for the american people? They provide us with fuel, and to make more profits, they try to control as much of the process of production as possible. Publicly traded and trying to make a profit is an excuse that seems to trump personal liberties at times. i have no problem with making a profit, but when companies have power and influence over elected officials, then profit making takes on an uglier quality.
    Jimmy, i haven't tried(killing myself), but others i quess i am here for a reason. From the Gospel of Luke Ch22/38: "........And they said: "Look Master, here are two swords!"
    And He said to them: "That is enough."--i wonder what Jesus was talking about?
    Maybe he was an insurgent.........

    February 23rd, 2008 2:29 pm davidwwalters
  39. Jimmy: The world would be a better place if I killed myself? Wow, what a beautiful Christian sentiment. How very pro-life of you.

    There's something going on on this blog that has nothing to do with politics. Jimmy, you're hiding something very dark and cruel behind a veil of political ideology. Your comment to me is by no means representative of true conservatism, that's for sure. None of the Republicans I know--and there are gobs of them here in Sacramento--would say such a thing to me or to anybody. Not for any reason, ever.

    Last time I checked it's a two-party system we have here in this country. We're supposed to compete in the marketplace of ideas--not tell the opposing side they ought to go kill themselves. I realize of course that says everything about you and absolutely nothing about your otherwise honorable party.

    February 23rd, 2008 4:47 pm Heather
  40. David,
    You say "The purpose of engaging the leaders of an "unfriendly" nation is partly to encourage the idea that perhaps some of the rhetoric about our nation is not correct". Sounds great, but do you think Obama will do that? Musharraf is on his way out in Pakistan. Pulling out of Iraq anytime soon will add more kindling to the Middle East fire. Iran will continue to be a problem. Peace in Israel will probably never happen. Now insert into this equation a young president with very little foreign relations experience and with a naive expectation that he can go out and make nice with all our adversaries. I honestly hope he does well, if elected (which looks like a pretty good bet right now). I just don't want to go back to the Jimmy Carter days (or worse).
    Just so you know, I've been a lifelong republican until Bush. I am now a registered democrat, but I was hoping Hillary would do better. Obama has whipped up America with his oratory skills, charisma, youth and good looks. He is the media darling. But what does he really bring to the table? Hillary or even McCain are more qualified to be President. But, that's only my opinion. It's nice to see blogs like this one where folks with half a brain can exchange meaningful rhetoric.

    February 23rd, 2008 5:24 pm angryqban
  41. angryqban......i too enjoy exchanging ideas, and i have to thank Urban Conservative for giving us the opportunity to do just that--exchange ideas. Me?......i've always been a bit of a "free thinker" with plenty of distrust for politicians of all stripes. i'm lucky to have been born and raised on military posts, it's provided me with a different perspective on the way events occur, and also has allowed me to interact with a wide variety of people from many places globally. As a youth, i was a hippie.....mostly teenage angst directed against my Special Forces dad......but when my girlfriend became pregnant, i dropped out of school and joined the 82nd airborne......and it was, for the most part a positive experience for me, i learned a lot about myself and the world we all inhabit.
    in 2000......i did not vote for Bush simply because it was clear to me he was the oil industries man. i may have voted for McCain, but he was smeared by Bush's machine.......and i didn't like Al Gore much. But being right in my assessment of young Bush was no comfort. Our next Cmd.-in-Chief will have his work cut out for him or her....and there is simply no way any person can adequately prepare for the task. Past administrations seem to think only far enough untill the next election, and these dysfunctional policies has led to the blow-back and negative public opinion(in that region in particular) that makes the task at hand all the more difficult.
    It will not be enough to simply rely on military power to achieve our goals, because armed might is merely an extension of our foreign policy.......not to be used to the exclusion of negotiations, but in conjunction with diplomacy. This is the main lesson to be gained from this iraq fiasco. And when we do resort to the military option, a leader needs to listen to ALL opinions of his military staff, not just those from likely "yes men". One thing that is clear to me is the need for more active duty personnel in the military(not reservist or NG's)......and less money spent on big ticket items like Virginia Class subs.
    John McCain.......i give him credit for what he has endured, but i think he is too beholden to special interests. Can Obama do it? Maybe we'll find out.

    February 23rd, 2008 9:02 pm davidwwalters
  42. David:

    It sounds like you have a great deal of "inside" understanding of the military. Far more than I do. My biggest issue at this juncture is Homeland Security. Without this none of the other issues will really matter much. However, economy and safety is difficult to separate.
    History has proven that bigger Government has generally lead to an uprising of the people, followed by Monarchy/Oligarchy. George Washington said, " Proper limitation of Government is the foundation of freedom. Reason and freedom both forbid us to expect that National morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle". Benjamin Franklin added, "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom", followed by, "As Nations become corrupt and vicious they have more need of masters". When you look back at Rome, it is difficult to ignore the parallels.
    Speaking as someone in the industry, our Health Care system is quite simply a mess. Publicly traded for profit companies are all very powerful and the result in some, if not most instances, has been control of personal liberties. Hence, how do you legislate morality? On the other hand, if Government steps in and takes control of Health Care, Utilities, Banks,...general things we all need to survive, I do not see this to be a better option. Who do we have that can step in to this absolute mess that has been created, and while maintaining personal liberties pull us back the other direction? Britain just took over a large bank (don't know the specifics on this) that was in destitute negatives and now, the burden of all this debt is squarely back fully and directly on the people. I see our Country so close to this.
    All in all...politicians involved in special interest and/or power both seem to be a grim choice to me. Mr. Obama's voting record no doubt points to loss of personal liberties and personal responsibility. Mrs. Clinton much the same. Mr. McCain, I agree with you has, many special interests.
    At no point in time in history has the Government taken over with the end result being positive, in fact the diametric opposite has taken place. There is no way ANY "Messiah" or other individual can by some genius fix this alone. The American people need to wake up and remember they all have personal responsibility to maintain our liberties. Blindly following anyone, without doing homework is hopeless.
    I can tell you this, the last thing I want is to lose, is the Right to Bear Arms. People seem to be more involved in restricting smoking, who should be allowed to marry whom... and it goes on and on... rather than paying attention to far larger issues of the day.
    It all looks like Rome to me.

    February 24th, 2008 7:26 am Connie
  43. Connie.....
    "It all looks like Rome to me."--finally we agree on something......and "rather than paying attention to far larger issues", our nation seems to have it's attention diverted away.......Why? Just as an illusionist tricks us to take our eye off the card, politicians(of both parties)muddy the waters of politics with these so-called issues to divert our attention from the "man behind the curtain". Simply put, our government operates on a corrupt system of bribery........special interests have special access to congress, and the executive branch, to the detriment of our pocketbooks. I've personally seen the way this corruption has negatively impacted our military and i saw the same thing happening in the highway department i worked at(RaleighNC).........there is a lot of easy money to be made by people with the right connections. This is what I call Big Government.
    I have a Ruger .357, an SKS assault rifle.......& lots of ammo(hidden away). I'm trying to focus peoples attention on the Real's not welfare mamas killing's the corporate whores and there "friends" in Washington.

    February 24th, 2008 1:24 pm davidwwalters
  44. David,

    I am a first generation Cuban-American. My parents came over from Cuba in '61. My dad was an Cuban Air Force pilot. When he saw what Castro was all about, he quicky defected to the US.

    As you can imagine, my father adopted this country as his, became a citizen, and was always a Republican. He hated Kennedy for all his screw-ups involving his homeland and had been a conservative unitl GW Bush changed his mind.

    As for me, I served in the US Air Force for 3 years (84-87) and am proud to be an American.

    Let's hope Obama does well, because it looks like he will be our next Prez...

    February 25th, 2008 2:11 pm angryqban
  45. angryquban.....i kinda figured with a moniker like you have that you came from Cuba........ "and am proud to be an American."--ain't nothin wrong with that. Believe it or not, i too am very proud to BE an American......just not always proud of America's actions.

    February 25th, 2008 2:46 pm davidwwalters
  46. "Let's hope Obama does well, because it looks like he will be our next Prez..."

    There is a lot of time until November. Do you really think all of Obama's ties to friends involved in communism won't become an issue at some point?
    Then there is Farrakhan, the "Nation of Islam" support, his wife's mouth, the crazy church he chooses to go to, his real voting record, and I could go on.
    All his talk about special interests and Lobbyists, well he's got several on his payroll.
    I just can't imagine the media or his opponent will continue to give him a pass on all of this.
    For goodness sakes, people are asked more in a job interview for an Insurance company than he has had to answer.
    Mrs. Obama says she and her husband believe the "souls" of people need to be healed. Give me a break. That is creepy.

    February 25th, 2008 2:47 pm Connie

    February 25th, 2008 3:02 pm Connie
  48. Connie....."All his talk about special interests and Lobbyists, well he's got several on his payroll."
    Sadly, this is true......and somehow i doubt our founding fathers envisioned a system where overt bribery was the method to begin the legislative process. And it always boils down to picking the worse of 2 evils for elected office.......and the one with the most money to produce the most smear ads wins. The enemies are not conservative, they are not liberal.......they are the Washington Lobbies.

    February 25th, 2008 3:12 pm davidwwalters
  49. I really hate to believe that, but it sure is the way things have become. Maybe always have been in relative terms.
    It's getting much harder to bury your head in the sand.

    February 25th, 2008 6:08 pm Connie
  50. Connie.......yeah don't bury that head.
    We will probably never be able to prove this war was waged for purely profit motives.......but it does speak loudly when this young troop cries out he didn't sign up to make KBR's profits soar.

    February 26th, 2008 3:52 am davidwwalters
  51. David:

    Thanks for sharing that URL.

    I am in the mental health field and hear from the gut level many sides of this issue. Being a "spectator" I can only gather the information I have and try to sort out what I believe. I certainly believe the people that have been in Iraq over anything I hear in the media...particularly the ones I see, who have no agenda other than healing themselves.
    My heart goes out to all of them, which isn't much I know. My comment about "burying my head in the sand"- many say that if we pull out now it will make them feel as if it what they did and have gone through was worthless, and others are quite like the gentleman in the URL you sent. It just seems a no win situation at this point.

    February 26th, 2008 7:16 am Connie
  52. Connie.....
    "many say that if we pull out now it will make them feel as if it what they did and have gone through was worthless,......."
    When i was in high school(near Ft. Bragg), in the early 70's, i would hang out with these GI's......they had the best weed(being back from nam). They also had heroin addictions(something i avoided). They would speak of their experiences, and the pointlessness of their situation; they all were trying to avoid being a casualty in a war already lost.
    Our countries leaders have placed a new generation in an equally grim situation. To me. the punks are the ones who so blithely send these troops into this mess.

    February 26th, 2008 12:14 pm davidwwalters
  53. People who want to know the facts about OBAMA, here they are, In a meeting with Jewish leaders in Cleveland, Ohio, Obama told them that he has never been a muslim. Obama said that he took the oath of office with his hand on a Bible. He said that the rumor that he does not say the pledge of allegiance is false, and that he would never have survived as an elected government official this rumor was true. Obama who was raised by his single mother, since he was three, said his father was not religious at all, and worshipped no faith. Obama's mother, and grandparents who raised Obama are all Christians. He has been attending the same Christian Church for over 20 years, got married as a Christian, and is raising his two daughters as Christians. Those people, are the facts!!!

    February 29th, 2008 11:54 pm LISA
  54. Lisa - How do you explain Farrakhan's endorsement of Obama? Have you seen any evidence (pictures) of Obama with his hand over his heart during the Pledge? Or personally heard him recite the Pledge? Do you know anything about his church? He SAYS his dad was this or wasn't that, but has this been proven? The only reason Obama is winning the election is because the MEDIA is backing him. The same media that is influenced by all these Hollywood communist-lovers like Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, Danny Glover (the list, sadly, is long). Sadly, the average American is not that bright, and is influenced entirely too much by this media. If Obama is elected, he should personally thank each one of these idiots...

    March 1st, 2008 6:37 am angryqban
  55. David,

    You state "The enemies are not conservative, they are not liberal.......they are the Washington Lobbies." and "it's not welfare mamas killing's the corporate whores and there "friends" in Washington." I agree. But - I don't think Obama (or Clinton or McCain) will change any of the corruption and lobbying that has always gone on (and probably always will). Unfortunately, it's "pick your poison" time again. If Obama is elected, we will probably return to something like our country had to endure during the Jimmy Carter days. That is, high taxes, high inflation, high unemployment and surely a worsening economy (you think times are bad now??). Our foreign policy will probably be to appease those who will do us harm (ie - Muslim extremists), while destroying the closer ties we now have with our main allies (Germany, France, Britain and Canada). If you haven't noticed, Merkel in Germany and Sarcozy in France have become much more pro-US than their predecessors. Why? - these leaders recognize the threat we face with Muslim extremism,and that they must unite with the other Western powers to combat this scourge. Obama intends to take this whole process in the other direction. Obama wants to re-do NAFTA. Do you think Canada will like this? I can go on....Foreign policy is extremely important. Bush has not done a great job, but Obama will be a disaster in the opposite direction. Hillary or McCain, however much I dislike them also, will be better for the Presidential post.

    March 1st, 2008 9:37 am angryqban
  56. Angryqban,

    I couldn't agree with you more. Obama would be a disaster. Rather than focusing on his middle name, there needs to be a lot more focus on the issues you brought up. It is all far too emotional.
    The biggest problem are the voters who really know absolutely nothing about the man, or any of the others for that matter, it's just "cool" to follow the mantra.
    Obama is following the "mind control" play book to a tee.

    March 1st, 2008 5:02 pm Connie
  57. Connie,

    I also agree with you. The media has hyped up Obama to rock star status. They are pushing him, big time, to Joe Average Media Consumer. Obama recently outspent Hillary on advertisng by a four to one ratio during last week's American Idol episode. I don't know if you like American Idol; I think it is a bunch of crap. They are hoping the types of people that watch American Idol (and the other main-stream media garbage they are using their advertising $$ on), who generally have been apathetic voters in the past, will get motivated by this hype and vote for "Change".

    I really hope I'm wrong, because the betting man in me says Obama will be our next Commander in Chief. I was wrong about Bill Clinton. Somehow, I don't think that is the case w/Obama. God help us...

    March 1st, 2008 6:14 pm angryqban
  58. Everything Obama says and does is an oxymoron...starting with, "The Audacity of Hope".
    His staple is to prey on feelings and emotions. Intellect is not something I have ever heard him utilize in his responses or to explain his decisions.
    It doesn't surprise me that he gets the college kids with this. I find it hard to believe that thinking adults cannot or won't see through all of this.
    The Rezko trial starts tomorrow...maybe he will have to answer some real questions with some real answers someday.
    Name one time he "reached across the aisle" in his 3 years in the Senate.
    He says he will sit down with Achmadenijad. Whether you like Fox news or not...he won't even accept an interview with any of them. So...what does that tell you about what he thinks of the American people, and how is that attempting in any way to "bring people together"?
    It is a long way to November and I am still holding on to faith in the American people. If the majority really want Socialism that is what they will get.

    March 2nd, 2008 3:13 pm Connie
  59. I have to agree with angryqban. It looks like Obama will be our man. I will never vote for someone so polarizing politically but I wont have to for him to when.

    I visited his official site. Listened to his introductory video and then headed straight for the issues tab. I have to admit, I was a little suprised. There are some policy proposals that I have to say don't sound that bad, especially the middle class tax cuts and some of the business tax incentives, but I realized that everything I was reading was the same as his speaches. Some good policy proposals. Some redistribution of wealth. All empty promises.

    Who is going to pay for all these freebies, handouts, and job creation programs?

    And the poverty section only detailed his American poverty programs. Where is the massive pile (hundred billions) of our cash he wants to let the U N redistribute?

    If you have a problem with the failings of our bureaucratic system check out the United Nation's track record. I say distance ourselves as much as possible from those wastes of time.

    March 2nd, 2008 5:19 pm Zachary
  60. I'm so glad you blogged about these issues with Obama. I am a Democrat, (for now), but I refuse to vote for a man who won't show the slightest bit of patriotism to the great country that gave him the freedom and opportunities to pursue whatever he wants, including the office of president. The more research I do on him, the more concerned I become and the more I'm going to inform as many people as I can about my findings. To know that his church and pastor/spiritual adviser are very racist against white people and endorse Louis Farrakhan, leader of the "Nation of Islam", who states openly and with vigor his hatred of white people, gays, and Jews, among others. To know that he won't put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance to the flag, to know that he doesn't even really incorporate the American flag within his campaign documents or signs, but rather, created a new "logo" that has red, white and blue within it. To know that he was not outraged by the Che Guevara/Cuban flag in his campaign office, but rather dismissed it as "not under his control". To hear his wife stating that "this is the first time in my adult life that I am proud of this country" only when she may have a chance at being "First Lady" when she, herself, has been a recipient of some of the greater privileges this nation has to offer such as the best education available. It all makes me sick. I wish people would wake up and ask questions instead of just figure "oh, he wants to be a movement of change!" I wonder what his answer would be if asked directly, "Barack Obama, do you love this nation and would you die for the freedoms it gives you?" I think we may all be surprised at his answer if he answered truthfully. I can go on and on about what I've found on Obama, but I just want you to know that you are appreciated. Please put out the word, keep doing it. It's incredibly important to the future of this nation.

    March 11th, 2008 3:45 pm Firefly
  61. Again....what is patriotism? Mindless exercises in right wing'd political correctness if you looking for "Templates of Appearances" singing the national anthem, or an american flag stick pin made in china.

    March 15th, 2008 5:57 am davidwwalters
  62. What patriotism is NOT: "Divide and Conquer", bigotry, hate, or dishonesty. Obama CHOSE to listen to attempts to do this very thing for two decades or more. He said he did not know the things his pastor was saying, that does not say much for his insight or accountability. The church brochure handed out every Sunday has some very divisive statements in it as well. So, I guess he never read that either. Wright is obviously very passionate about his beliefs, these beliefs did not just come out a handful of times or suddenly develop. When someone feels this strongly and voices it publicly, it would be impossible not to spill over in to private conversations. Particularly with someone identified as a "mentor". If Wright was able to ruse Obama all these years he certainly is not qualified to be the President. If Obama ascribes to this type of hate and bigotry he is not qualified to be the President. Either way, the answer is, NO HE CAN'T. He was clearly influenced greatly by Wright, per his own words in his book. Again, 20 YEARS, Obama's own words in his book...."guilt by association" or "not having all the same beliefs as your pastor" does not apply here. Obama called this man a "trusted friend and adviser"...who "inspired" the title of his book. Wright was officially
    appointed to one of Obama's committee's until just yesterday. VERY poor judgment.
    Manipulation through guilt , which has obviously been very effective, perpetuates bigotry. If he truly sees "hope" as he preaches, I have to wonder...."hope" to avenge?The candidate of "unity". His actions prove him to be a walking, talking oxymoron.

    March 15th, 2008 7:19 am Connie
  63. Connie, I completely agree with you. He has a lot to answer to. My father is a minister, and everything he said in sermons was discussed among the congregation at length. If anything was said that was questionable, people asked questions, criticized or praised depending on the sermon in question. I REFUSE to believe that Barack Obama "never heard any of the statements in question". This provides the explanation as to why Michelle Obama plainly stated that "this is the first time in my adult life that I am proud of this country". She obviously also agrees with and accepts Wright's views on this great nation. I believe that Obama has a lot of explaining to do. I do not believe that he is the right choice for this nation. I would hope that at the very least, people would research this before jumping on the band wagon and backing someone like Obama.

    As for DavidWalters post above: You may not find it important to state the pledge of allegiance to this country, or fly the flag, and you may dismiss those rituals as "templates of appearances" or "empty gestures" of patriotism, but there are those among us that respect what the American flag and the pledge stand for. We remember all of the sacrifices that so many generations paid before ours that gave us those rituals and the power behind them. The VERY LEAST I expect from a president of this country is their show of patriotism. This includes placing your hand over your heart when saying the pledge, this includes proudly standing with the flag that represents us. If you don't want to show those things, then you have the choice not to, but to dismiss such displays as "nothing" is a grave mistake. You should be ashamed, and so should Barack Obama.

    March 16th, 2008 2:42 pm Firefly
  64. As a post script:

    I'm very curious as to why DavidWWalters did not comment on the 20 year association and deep rooted friendship of Barack Obama with a proud and very vocal anti-American pastor. I'm curious to know your thoughts on that. Do you approve of this connection?

    March 16th, 2008 2:53 pm Firefly
  65. I think it is important for people to know what Obama really thinks in his own words:

    From Dreams of my Father, “The emotion between the races could never be pure, even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, the other race (WHITE) would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart.” Barack Obama
    From Dreams Of My Father: “That hate hadn’t gone away,” he wrote, BLAMING “WHITE PEOPLE — some CRUEL, some IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.” Barack Obama
    From Dreams Of My Father, “There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,to show your LOYALTY TO THE BLACK MASSES, TO STRIKE OUT and name names” Barack Obama
    From Dreams from my Father, "At best, these things [manifestations of blackness] were a refuge; at worst, a trap. Following this maddening logic, the only thing you could choose as your own was withdrawal into a smaller and smaller coil of rage, until being black meant only the knowledge of your own powerlessness, of your own defeat. And the final irony: Should you refuse this defeat and lash out at your captors, they would have a name for that, too, a name that could cage you just as good. Paranoid. Militant. Violent. Nigger." Barack Obama
    “What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice,” Obama said. “He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that’s involved in national politics.” Barack Obama

    Is this the character of a person anyone can honestly trust? His platform has been all about rising above race...

    March 16th, 2008 4:18 pm Connie
  66. He's a liar. plain and simple.

    Obama is not fit to be the president of the United States of America.

    March 16th, 2008 4:31 pm Firefly
  67. another post script:

    It's curious that Michelle Obama's (then Michelle LaVaughn Robinson) senior thesis at Princeton is being held back (by Princeton) from public view until November 5, 2008. It was specifically written on the racial divide as she was an "African American studies" minor. I did find it at the "Politico" website however. I will be reading it. The more I research, the more concerned I become, as I stated before.

    March 16th, 2008 5:25 pm Firefly
  68. In this clip, Barack Obama refers to Rev. Wright as a "friend" and a "great leader". He also states that he "councils" him among other things.


    March 16th, 2008 5:35 pm Firefly
  69. Good clip...thanks for sharing

    It is unfathomable to me that he could win the majority of the vote. Are people paying attention? Nothing adds up.
    The bigotry, hate, and racism is so obvious. It s so much more than "guilt by association". How does anyone who is not black believe that he does not feel hate toward them? Have we become that soft and naive of a society? I am very interested to see more than excerpts from Michelle's thesis as well. I have already heard the excuses of the supporters though. It really is unbelievable. The messiah preaches the "gospel of the social victim". It seems that people either feel like a victim or the ones that don't, feel guilty about the victims. They are blinded...bamboozled.
    Here is more of what he knew...

    March 16th, 2008 6:09 pm Connie
  70. It's shameful. The people defending him probably don't even know all the facts about him. I intend to find out more. I do believe that our nation has become naive in many ways. My husband's aunt is one of the naive ones. Sadly, she also is in a position of power as she teaches people how to teach. It's horrible. I worry about the future of this nation and the lack of care shown by young generations and the lack of respect for basic displays of patriotism which they brush off as "trivial" or "empty". I'm hoping that enough people like you and I, and others who care on this blog, including the blog's author continue to research, uncover and share all the information we find exposing this kind of behavior and belief system. This is completely unacceptable behavior for a candidate of the presidency of the United States of America. If the other "white" candidates were members of churches being openly anti-black or members of the KKK, this would NEVER stand. They would be condemned all around and quickly be removed from the race for candidacy. I would support such action and I would sincerely hope that people don't stand for this behavior from Barack Obama.

    You can find Michelle Obama's thesis here: Download the four parts in blue links:

    March 17th, 2008 1:20 am Firefly
  71. It is obvious as technology enables us to accomplish more, we regress and become less collectively. We have entire groups of society that prefer to nuture unconfirmed lies and talking points. America with all of her faults is a nation of diverse people who one must learn the errors of history or drown in misconcevied self disceptions.

    April 2nd, 2008 6:16 pm 4truthBTold
  72. ".....entire groups of society that prefer to nurture unconfirmed lies and talking points. "
    Good point,
    .....we American's are great in so many ways, but to expose our own faults and learn from them is NOT one of our strong suits as a nation. When Rev. Wright spoke, he spoke about things that touch a raw nerve.......but truth, nevertheless.

    April 2nd, 2008 7:01 pm davidwwalters
  73. Truth meaning that racism runs both way? I'd say that's the truth!

    April 3rd, 2008 9:07 am Firefly
  74. Also, Rev. Wright hates this country. He hates America. Obama attended his church for 20 plus years, considers Wright a "close friend and advisor". Obama does not pay homage to the American flag...a BASIC requirement of the "commander and Chief". I will NOT vote for anyone who doesn't absolutely LOVE this nation, faults and all.

    April 3rd, 2008 9:10 am Firefly
  75. Firefly,
    To really love your country, sometimes means you have to speak out to make this nation better(a more perfect union)......we are not perfect, just as Rev. Wright's spoke of it in his infamous sermon that few have listened to in it's entirety....
    We have failed in all the instances he enumerated. Telling the truth is not racism.
    Oh, by the way, Rev Wright did serve his country in the Marine Corps....and as a man who has worn the uniform as a US Paratrooper, i say he has the right to say what is on his mind, and i do not have a problem with that.

    April 3rd, 2008 9:24 am davidwwalters

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